To me Drake dropped one certified banger (Family Matters) and K Dot dropped two, not counting Like That as a full diss record (Euphoria, Not Like Us).
As far as strategy goes. They both lied like shit on each other but Drake made a big mistake to me. He thought he was going to be able to use his little innuendos and control the narrative to paint a false narrative on Kendrick's wife & Dave Free. Ugly angle, but fair play. Kendrick, however, forecasted it or got a leak on it and had his own shocker/gossip narrative ready so he could step on Drake's bombshell allegations with his own. Drake then claims that this doesn't count because Kendrick's info was faulty. Clearly neither of them give a fuck about using faulty information though, seeing as Drake doubled down on it RE: the Dave Free shit, even in his most recent song where he tries to make it sound like Kendrick lost by using bad info.
Seems to be general consensus among those without much of a dog in the fight. Think Drake suffers from what Jay-Z suffered from during Nas/Ether battle. He's been on top so long and shitted on so many favorite artists that people are hella ready for him to be knocked down a few.
People are fickle though, what if it comes out Drake did indeed feed Kendrick bad info and Kendrick's bars are all fabrications? It would change the narrative for sure
I think the winner is the guy who is less likely to have his home / computer / phone raided by the FBI in the next decade for interaction with young ladies.
Kendrick but Intellectuals know his lead is not as much as people make it to be. But unfortunately the dumbest people of our society make the most noise and everyone thinks kendrick got some landslide lead meanwhile all his disses are getting disproven as the days go on.
Ha, I find it all very reminiscent of Jay/Nas. Drake's been number one for so long that people just want to see him get knocked down a peg by a fan-favorite rapper's rapper.
Similarly, I'll die on the hill that Takeover is a better diss record than Ether, but similar to Drake, people at the time were so sick of Jay Z being the man and everyone knowing it that they wanted to see Nas bleed 'em so Ether got super extra hyped.
I didn't listen to any of the other tracks but Push Ups was a banger imo. Unpopular opinion but Kendrick Lamar's nasally ass has always been overrated and generally not a pleasant rap style to listen to. Great marketing job by his team though when his first album dropped to market him as the "next coming". I never understood the appeal though and much of hype felt and still feels inauthentic.
Let's be honest the real winner is Metro Boomin. Homeboy shut his mouth up and beat them drums, now we have a banger of a beat BBL Drizzy. Also the loser is that security guy the Weeknd's crew merc'd up.
Drake. Kendrick fans are chronically online twitter users, 13 year old white kids and liberals. Normal people prefer Drake
The fact that anyone prefers someone as absurdly corny as Drake is wild to me and anyone else over the age of 35.
We remember Drake’s Upper Middle Class upbringing, his stint as Wheelchair Jimmy, and all of the pictures of him being a basketball wife hugging NBA players even if the kids don’t.
The Heart Part 6 was such a colossal failure on its own that Drake cannot possibly be the winner of the beef:
"We plotted for a week, then we fed you the information" does not jive with "the ones that you're getting your stories from; they all clowns." He called himself and his team clowns.
Meet the Grahams was released basically instantly after Family Matters, which is evidence of a double agent, and this is corroborated by the telegraphing in 6:16 in L.A. and Euphoria. The Heart Part 6 was released so slowly that it undermines Drake's narrative of a triple agent. Why release so slowly if you had inside intel on Meet The Grahams?
He calls himself the "war general," then proceeds to rhyme 14 bars with "-ation" words, when Kendrick has shown a lot more sophistication than that.
Drake mentions Epstein and not Weinstein, which shows that he hasn't been keeping track of Kendrick's lyrics
Drake messes up with his interpretation of Mr. Morale; Kendrick was referring to his mother, not himself.
"I promise I'd have been arrested" is not a valid argument when famous people have evaded the law for many years.
Same with "I'm way too famous"
Drake name drops Millie Bobbie Brown, giving credence to the rumors, despite the fact that Kendrick had not even brought her up
Drake admits that Kendrick's streaming data is better and that he has way more records prepared for this than what Drake has, which are both positions of weakness
Kendrick taking ages to reply only to record multiple disses at once as well as sitting on disses 4+ years old then dropping them all at once doesn't make you "win". Plus you can't win when a whole verse of your diss is completely false.
Also still no response to domestic abuse allegations
The domestic abuse allegations pre-date the 4 year window you cited, so even more stale. The blog is from over 10 years ago with no credible proof. This whole beef is resurfacing of prior conflict, so it makes sense that they didn’t lash out at things before.
Kenny was holding onto things, but he also preemptively warned Drake not to release Family Matters by predicting his angle. Drake poked the bear and got on the wrong end of Kenny’s stockpile.
Drake is the one who looks foolish saying he has a triple agent when his responses are slow and weak. Kenny has acted rapidly and has been proven to have foreknowledge of Drake’s camp.
I fully accept the possibility that Drake doesn’t have a daughter at all, but he’s hardly engendered confidence on this topic by covering up Adonis.
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To me Drake dropped one certified banger (Family Matters) and K Dot dropped two, not counting Like That as a full diss record (Euphoria, Not Like Us).
As far as strategy goes. They both lied like shit on each other but Drake made a big mistake to me. He thought he was going to be able to use his little innuendos and control the narrative to paint a false narrative on Kendrick's wife & Dave Free. Ugly angle, but fair play. Kendrick, however, forecasted it or got a leak on it and had his own shocker/gossip narrative ready so he could step on Drake's bombshell allegations with his own. Drake then claims that this doesn't count because Kendrick's info was faulty. Clearly neither of them give a fuck about using faulty information though, seeing as Drake doubled down on it RE: the Dave Free shit, even in his most recent song where he tries to make it sound like Kendrick lost by using bad info.
Kendrick won but drake still daddy
Seems to be general consensus among those without much of a dog in the fight. Think Drake suffers from what Jay-Z suffered from during Nas/Ether battle. He's been on top so long and shitted on so many favorite artists that people are hella ready for him to be knocked down a few.
People are fickle though, what if it comes out Drake did indeed feed Kendrick bad info and Kendrick's bars are all fabrications? It would change the narrative for sure
Winner is the person who is most talked about.
Kendrick in a landslide since not like us is a banger
It's genius marketing. They all win.
Idk if Drake would agrees with you, he never needed the extra marketing anyways
I think the winner is the guy who is less likely to have his home / computer / phone raided by the FBI in the next decade for interaction with young ladies.
Kendrick but Intellectuals know his lead is not as much as people make it to be. But unfortunately the dumbest people of our society make the most noise and everyone thinks kendrick got some landslide lead meanwhile all his disses are getting disproven as the days go on.
Average Drake glazer.
Ha, I find it all very reminiscent of Jay/Nas. Drake's been number one for so long that people just want to see him get knocked down a peg by a fan-favorite rapper's rapper.
Similarly, I'll die on the hill that Takeover is a better diss record than Ether, but similar to Drake, people at the time were so sick of Jay Z being the man and everyone knowing it that they wanted to see Nas bleed 'em so Ether got super extra hyped.
I didn't listen to any of the other tracks but Push Ups was a banger imo. Unpopular opinion but Kendrick Lamar's nasally ass has always been overrated and generally not a pleasant rap style to listen to. Great marketing job by his team though when his first album dropped to market him as the "next coming". I never understood the appeal though and much of hype felt and still feels inauthentic.
Let's be honest the real winner is Metro Boomin. Homeboy shut his mouth up and beat them drums, now we have a banger of a beat BBL Drizzy. Also the loser is that security guy the Weeknd's crew merc'd up.
I feel like Metro stirred this entire shit up lowkey and is now clearly enjoying every single second of it.
Drake. Kendrick fans are chronically online twitter users, 13 year old white kids and liberals. Normal people prefer Drake
Drakes girls are 13 year old kids
The fact that anyone prefers someone as absurdly corny as Drake is wild to me and anyone else over the age of 35.
We remember Drake’s Upper Middle Class upbringing, his stint as Wheelchair Jimmy, and all of the pictures of him being a basketball wife hugging NBA players even if the kids don’t.
The Heart Part 6 was such a colossal failure on its own that Drake cannot possibly be the winner of the beef:
Disastrous song.
Kendrick taking ages to reply only to record multiple disses at once as well as sitting on disses 4+ years old then dropping them all at once doesn't make you "win". Plus you can't win when a whole verse of your diss is completely false.
Also still no response to domestic abuse allegations
The domestic abuse allegations pre-date the 4 year window you cited, so even more stale. The blog is from over 10 years ago with no credible proof. This whole beef is resurfacing of prior conflict, so it makes sense that they didn’t lash out at things before.
Kenny was holding onto things, but he also preemptively warned Drake not to release Family Matters by predicting his angle. Drake poked the bear and got on the wrong end of Kenny’s stockpile.
Drake is the one who looks foolish saying he has a triple agent when his responses are slow and weak. Kenny has acted rapidly and has been proven to have foreknowledge of Drake’s camp.
I fully accept the possibility that Drake doesn’t have a daughter at all, but he’s hardly engendered confidence on this topic by covering up Adonis.
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