MisterXYZ:
also ib, straight from analyst/associate promoted to VP? coming from Private Equity? coming from the industry?

tell me, you know why I'm asking this, don't you?

mistake, sorry

 

I work for a tier-one M&A group. Depending on who you ask, possibly the best M&A focused platform on the street.

I would say about half of the VPs/Directors have spent time at private equity funds before returning to M&A (some mid market/some larger firms like TPG). A number of the associates we hire have worked at PE funds prior to B-school.

 
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I know a few people who have (myself included), but these guys were invariably either not happy or not successful.

I left a B+ firm (one tier below Blackstone, TPG, KKR) to return to M&A because I missed the "deal" environment, and was happier running and negotiating deals than I was doing analysis and due diligence.

And for people more senior:

I knew a guy who is the head of a major group on Wall Street, who was poached away to head an industry vertical at a major fund, who told he came back to the same bank because he couldn't deal with the slower pace of private equity.

And there's Brian Finn, who used to run M&A at CSFB, who went to CD&R and came back. My friends at CD&R who say he was a much more talented banker than investor.

The skill sets get very different at a senior level. Some people (i.e., Schwarzman) can do both. Manry others (i.e., Wasserstein) cannot.

 
thesquare:
I know a few people who have (myself included), but these guys were invariably either not happy or not successful.

I left a B+ firm (one tier below Blackstone, TPG, KKR) to return to M&A because I missed the "deal" environment, and was happier running and negotiating deals than I was doing analysis and due diligence.

And for people more senior:

I knew a guy who is the head of a major group on Wall Street, who was poached away to head an industry vertical at a major fund, who told he came back to the same bank because he couldn't deal with the slower pace of private equity.

And there's Brian Finn, who used to run M&A at CSFB, who went to CD&R and came back. My friends at CD&R who say he was a much more talented banker than investor.

The skill sets get very different at a senior level. Some people (i.e., Schwarzman) can do both. Manry others (i.e., Wasserstein) cannot.

If an analyst(after 2 years) with good reviews and ranked around the top of their class wanted to try out PE or another opportunity on the buyside for a year or two, but then decided they didn't like it and wanted to return to IB, will their old firm (or a firm of similar quality) take them back as an associate, or will they have to go get their MBA and reapply?
 

"If an analyst(after 2 years) with good reviews and ranked around the top of their class wanted to try out PE or another opportunity on the buyside for a year or two, but then decided they didn't like it and wanted to return to IB, will their old firm (or a firm of similar quality) take them back as an associate, or will they have to go get their MBA and reapply?"

In a market like this where people are starved for good associates, that's possible. In a more neutral or down market, the expectation is probably that you would go to business school

 

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