Warwick vs Bocconi
Hi guys , just wanted to ask you your two cents about my situation.
I am an 18 yrs old Italian student (South Italy) , and I applied to a few university for my undergraduate. I have a 1810 on SAT test so just got into some crappy colleges (with full tuition scolarship) in the US, not worth the effort to cross the Atlantic (I received offer for scholarship from University of South Florida or Hosfra university, so figure out the level).
Fortunately I applied to some unis in Europe and got in at Warwick (L100 Economics) and Bocconi (Bachelor in Economics and management taught in English). So my question is : In your opinion which of the two should I Pick?
Bocconi is unconditional , while Warwick asks me +95 at my final exam, but in Italy your final exam grade depends 90% on what you have done in the previous years, so it is an easily reachable task.
These are my thoughts
Bocconi :
Pros
1)It's an hour with plane from home, 5 hours by train
2)I know a few of my future classmates
3)It's home in a certain way, I have friends there, it's my country after all, so same language, same food , almost same habits, while I could benefit of a course taught in English and an international environment (50% Italians , 50% foreigners)
Cons
1) Living it hell expensive
2) Maybe worse academics than a British uni?
3) No loans, you have to pay the tuition (in my case 10000€ per year or so) every year
4) impossible to finds a job straight after the bachelor, doing a master after a degree here it's NECESSARY to find a good job
Warwick
Pros
1) I have heard Guardian ranked it 1st economics degree in the uk
2) Living abroad it's intriguing
3) Better job prospects after undergraduate
4) Better campus experience
5) Student loan
Cons
1) Where the f**k is Coventry? Just know it for the football team.
Milan it's 100000 times better
2) Far Far Far from home
3) Living abroad it's also scaring
In the future I would like to be the export manager of some company or do a Phd in economics in a US top uni and become a professor, but I am not able to figure out which of the two universities is better known in the US.
So yes I don't know if I want to be a manager or an economist, so if you could help me figure out my options it would be great
Thank you very much for the help monkeys!
If you really want to go and do a phd in the us in economics, I'd advise you to go to Bocconi. Plenty of alumni pursuing PhDs in the Ivy League schools and plenty of professors whom you can reach out to. But that's like at least 5 years away for you.
Where did you get it from that you have to do a masters to find a job?
I wasn't speaking generally, I meant in Italy it's impossible to find a good job with just the Bocconi undergraduate but I don't really know if it is possible to find a good position abroad with such a degree
Don't worry about it, if you want to start working after your bachelor, you'll also be fine outside of Italy. However, with both schools I wouldn't think that you'll have fantastic chances for a job right away in the US in the areas you mentioned. Both are well known in the world of finance/economics but in my mind "export manager" is going to target medium-to-large sized companies which might have more "regional" recruiting.
I'm not sure I understand your reasoning about financing perfectly well. Loans are loans and fees are fees. If you can't pay the fees at Bocconi now you'll have to get a loan to pay, just like you would at Warwick. Maybe the terms (interest rates and other conditions) will differ but essentially it remains the same. Scholarships would be something different.
Purely based on academics, reputation, etc. I would take Bocconi. I think it's a better school than Warwick.
If you decide to go to Bocconi, make sure to get some good grades so that you can do an exchange semester abroad in the US to get some international experience and also get a better idea whether you want to work there, do a PhD, etc.
Coventry sucks, trust me, its a dive. Nearby Leamington Spa is okay, but no comparison to Milan.
Tank you all for the answers. Anyway the problem of fees it's marginal, it was Just a constatation, Bocconi doesn't have any kind of loans available while in England they have that loan for European student you start paying back when you get a job. Again that's the only difference since the fees are almost the same, and there is aswell a difference in the cost of living, but this is obvious since Milan is way bigger than Coventry.
Anyway if you don't think Warwick economics degree would give me more possibilities to get into a Phd right after the bachelor, then I am going to pick up Bocconi since at least in Italy as far as I know, it places the hell well and the chances of getting into a top Master later are good as well.
Boccomi may not have a lot of loans, but they have plenty of merit awards.
Nightlife at Warwick is woeful when compared to any city with a good scene. It straddles Coventry and Leamington, the latter of which is a student town. You won't even think about going into Cov, there are no upsides except a cheap train to London. Warwick Uni is good for placing people into City jobs, it was ranked first for employability last year and yes the Econ and business school are both top of he board (along with Math). As far as academics though... Well it's a business uni.
Not knowing much of Bocconi, I'd suggest that for academia you go to Bocconi but to get into the City you go to Warwick.
You are wrong, there is no merit award for Home students for undergraduate degrees. Instead they spend a lot of money for graduate course funding while for them undergraduate degrees are a bit more "cash cows".
And you can't get the financial aid package either?
Bocconi if you speak italian.
No :'( the limit to be considered is quite low
Idk. From my perspective you should just get a loan and pay for Bocconi. From what you wrote above, Bocconi looks like the better alternative.
Warwick. Bocconi undergraduate program is not as reknowned as their Masters program in terms of placement. I definitely saw quite a few Bocconi guys in London when I visited but if you want to work in the financial hub of Europe and have the opportunity to network choose Warwick.
This. Pick Warwick.
Warwick/Bocconi (Originally Posted: 02/05/2012)
Hi
I read a lot of information in this forum that helped me a lot with my applications. Now I got some answers and it's not easy.
A got an offer from Warwick MSc Finance and Economics and from Bocconi MSc in Finance.
What do you guys think of that choice?
I think that the 2 year Bocconi programme might be a good point because I dont have any significant work experience in Finance yet. But Warwick seems to be a pretty good degree, especially in the UK. I don't care starting my career in Milan or London (London would be a bit better) but in the long run I would like to come back home
What do you think about the reputation of those programmes in Finance (corporate) in their respective countries and in Europe in general? And about the quality?
Thanks a lot for your help!
Agree. Judging from the reputation of the school, quality of the program and placement opportunities.
You said you didn't wanna apply for F&E at LSE because its too quantitative, which is why I wouldn't recommend going to Bocconi. I personally would go to LSE, as it will give you the best opportunities and if you play your cards right, you will have better chances from LSE than from any of the other three.
Where did you do your undergrad? I'm French and at one of those schools.
I was in Sorbonne. In which school are/were you?
what do u want to do after? for banking in london lse>=warwick>bocconi>hec
How did you get into bocconi already? I thought their application hasn't even opened yet. You are talking about the MA in Quant finance and risk management, right?
gardenstate
Do you mind sharing your stats like Gpa, Toefl or Ielts and GMAT?
I will to apply to the same schools next winter and it would be nice to see with which stats you got accepted.
Thanks and good luck choosing one course.
Bocconi's Msc Finance has a strong reputation and a good placement in London, but it's very quantitative, 6 out of 10 exams in the first year are about quant stuff.
Bocconi or Sciences Po
This is a 3 years old post, I think he decided, why you found and commented on it? Just curious man
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