Combining a top MBA with a proper degree...

Can anyone comment on combining an MBA at a top school with a more intellectually stimulating academic degree, e.g. MPhil or MA in economic or world history, philosophy, etc...?

I regret not studying something more interesting than finance/business at the undergraduate level and would love to take the opportunity to pursue that during my two year MBA vacation... Any ideas if this is possible / advisable?

 

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"economic or world history, philosophy etc" ... It looks you are not interested in any of those and just want to study for the sake of it so I wont suggest you to take any subject with MBA ( but then I may be wrong ... ) I have a degree in CS and didnt study any of those "intellectual subjects" in college but out of interest I spent my free time studying world history,ancient greek literature,classics, philosophy etc and now have my own small library . You like something, start reading in your free time as you still have some time before you start the school in fall next year.

 
zombie_12:
"economic or world history, philosophy etc" ... It looks you are not interested in any of those and just want to study for the sake of it so I wont suggest you to take any subject with MBA ( but then I may be wrong ... ) I have a degree in CS and didnt study any of those "intellectual subjects" in college but out of interest I spent my free time studying world history,ancient greek literature,classics, philosophy etc and now have my own small library . You like something, start reading in your free time as you still have some time before you start the school in fall next year.

You studied CS, and spent your free time studying ancient greek literature? You sound like an absolute joy to be around

 
jaschen27:
zombie_12:
"economic or world history, philosophy etc" ... It looks you are not interested in any of those and just want to study for the sake of it so I wont suggest you to take any subject with MBA ( but then I may be wrong ... ) I have a degree in CS and didnt study any of those "intellectual subjects" in college but out of interest I spent my free time studying world history,ancient greek literature,classics, philosophy etc and now have my own small library . You like something, start reading in your free time as you still have some time before you start the school in fall next year.

You studied CS, and spent your free time studying ancient greek literature? You sound like an absolute joy to be around

he sounds like the only smart person to have ever posted on WSO.
 
jaschen27:
zombie_12:
"economic or world history, philosophy etc" ... It looks you are not interested in any of those and just want to study for the sake of it so I wont suggest you to take any subject with MBA ( but then I may be wrong ... ) I have a degree in CS and didnt study any of those "intellectual subjects" in college but out of interest I spent my free time studying world history,ancient greek literature,classics, philosophy etc and now have my own small library . You like something, start reading in your free time as you still have some time before you start the school in fall next year.

You studied CS, and spent your free time studying ancient greek literature? You sound like an absolute joy to be around

Taking out a few hours per week is not a big deal and not that I studied the literature in "ancient greek" or like someone preparing for his history finals.

 

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shorttheworld:
you can always read books in history and philosophy in your own time. for free. or attend a lot of the speaker panels at your school as a grad student.
Yep, I agree. I have a liberal arts degree and while it was more interesting than studying ARMs or GDP, the bottom line is that you're shelling out a buttload of cash and you need to make it back, so go to school for that reason. The economy really isn't going to see a big boom for a while, so stop in B&N, get a cup of coffee, and start reading the good stuff on your own time.
Get busy living
 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCourseWare

I suggest mit for the science/math things (more of theirs are video accessible), and berkeley for the humanities.

PM me for suggestions on reading materials re: philosophy.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 

Have you taken a look at the Oxford 1 + 1 MBA program? It certainly seems like a pretty neat program. Although admittedly, the Said Business School does not stack up against some of its American counterparts.

http://www.sbs.ox.ac.uk/degrees/oxford1plus1/Pages/default.aspx

"The Oxford 1+ 1 MBA progrramme is a new initiative that will allow students to pair Oxford University’s one year full-time MBA programme with one of a selection of one year MSc programmes offered by other University departments."

"Rage, rage against the dying of the light." - DT
 

You can read this shit on your own time.

People who major in this stuff are usually dumb (I'm a liberal arts major) and in the professional world, it is looked down upon, at least from what I have seen.

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watersign:
People who major in this stuff are usually dumb (I'm a liberal arts major) and in the professional world, it is looked down upon, at least from what I have seen.
This is not correct.
Get busy living
 
UFOinsider:
watersign:
People who major in this stuff are usually dumb (I'm a liberal arts major) and in the professional world, it is looked down upon, at least from what I have seen.
This is not correct.

What part?

I worked and got some experience before going off to college (not talking about being a waiter or retail store clerk, i'm talking real jobs) and when the recruiters told me they were looking for accounting/hard science majors I was kind of caught by surprise as these positions/internships didn't require any accounting or science knowledge..they just want smart people, so it seems.

The only companies that wanted liberal arts majors were looking for sales people to sell insurance.

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watersign:
UFOinsider:
watersign:
People who major in this stuff are usually dumb (I'm a liberal arts major) and in the professional world, it is looked down upon, at least from what I have seen.
This is not correct.

What part?

I worked and got some experience before going off to college (not talking about being a waiter or retail store clerk, i'm talking real jobs) and when the recruiters told me they were looking for accounting/hard science majors I was kind of caught by surprise as these positions/internships didn't require any accounting or science knowledge..they just want smart people, so it seems.

The only companies that wanted liberal arts majors were looking for sales people to sell insurance.

I'm a C student from a state school with a psych degree and have interned in ER, market research, and chose those two over a corporate finance internship. I now work on the sales end of a product group in MM AM, am a silent partner in two small companies, bartend on the weekends, and will be applying to MBA programs in the next year or two. I am recruited for other positions several times a month and also talk to people at bigger companies, and so may spend a few years at another firm...I haven't decided and don't know what the new year will bring. The #1 thing that has allowed me to blow past the comptetition is cultivating a broad network, the college degree just says your guaranteed minimum level of intelligence / work ethic is better than the scmuck who only went to high school. Having a degree or going to a school focused on your choice of career is helpful, but by no means is the only element in landing a job.

Have I adequately destroyed your preconceived notions of how this all works?

You seem smart but you've got a lot to learn...hopefully this site helps you find your way.

Get busy living
 
UFOinsider:
watersign:
People who major in this stuff are usually dumb (I'm a liberal arts major) and in the professional world, it is looked down upon, at least from what I have seen.
This is not correct.
it is correct. people wont say it to your face but trust me people that studied proper subjects between each other look down on fuzzy subjects.
 

While I bag on people who get BA degrees, I do not think they are dumb. Their degree is not entirely marketable, but I think the material they learn is informative and would classify them as intelligent.

 

Relinquis, you're in a very sweet spot career wise. A lot of people would love to have your predicament.

A couple of points. I was a history/philosophy dual major in college. History was my first academic passion, and although I generally enjoyed my coursework, I do regret not doing something more "practical" like economics or computer science because it would have made my life easier in terms of job search and professional opportunities broadly speaking.

Regarding your personal situation, if you just want to learn about history/politics/international relations/philosophy, there is no need to do a dual degree program. As others have said, you can attend lectures at the university, do reading on your own, or take an elective course during your last semester of an mba. For instance, if you're at columbia business, you can take classes at SIPA and have them count towards your mba. And i'm pretty sure hbs does the same thing with the kennedy school. These major universities are quite flexible in this regard, and you should make sure to take advantage of all those resources.

If your professional goal involves making some sort of transition into a different industry, a regular full-time MBA is essential. Even if you want to set up your own fund, it always helps to have that network at your disposal. In addition, I personally think finance people can gain a lot from developing their leadership and teamwork skills and picking up concepts in management, strategy, and operations. I think running your own fund requires much more than being a finance whiz kid, so the holistic education offered by an MBA can be quite useful. From my understanding, the sloan program at stanford is for mid-career executives who have already "arrived" at where they need to be professionally. If you truly believe that taking 2 years off to do a full-time MBA will have almost no benefit on your professional career, then you can opt for the sloan program or some other executive MBA like wharton or columbia. Otherwise, take the safe bet, and try to do a M7 full-time program.

Take a look at the Lauder program at Wharton combining a MA in International Relations and an MBA. I'm doing the exact same thing. I was going to apply to the Lauder program but I know I will be a ding considering my w/e for an MBA is lacking at the moment and I'm missing the GMAT (would have taken obviously if I decided to apply).

As an MBA is important to my future career plans, I'm applying to MA degrees and will hopefully combine them into an MBA in my 2nd year, after more w/e and the GMAT.

 

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