Diversity in CRE

Why is there such a lack of diversity in CRE? Just looking at LinkedIn profiles of brokers in my market (CB,JLL, Colliers, ES) and I can only find 4-5 POC and very few women. As a student this is slightly discouraging trying to break into the industry and seeing very little minority representation across the board.

 
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Does it really matter?

First of all- you are living in the greatest time on the planet in terms of career prospects for women/minorities.

Second, you don’t have the toughness for this business if you get discouraged before you even start because you don’t see enough people that look like you at the top.

I know it sounds harsh and you’re not wrong about white men being dominant but you need to forget about it. It’s only going to hurt you focusing on that.

 

Idk I've scrolled through and seen a bunch of Indians. Though I think when people say white man they also include Indian and East Asian

 

I mean I’m not gonna argue it’s not dominated by white men. But also IMO it’s not productive to care. If anything the OP should see the lack of women/POC as an opportunity.

I think there’s still discrimination out there- but for 99% of employers in CRE other factors matter A LOT more than gender or race. Do you have the right personality, are you presentable, are you good looking, are you a good communicator, is your dad/mom connected and so on.

 

I think the reason is simple and it ties back to the question everyone is always asking....how do I explain to people what I do for work? Point is that the amount of people in the country that even understand there are careers within CRE and it's not just Trump and a bunch of other rich guys driving their rents up is almost 0.  That means that the people going in to real estate tend to either have come from families that were also in RE or somehow fell into it via their college's business school offering a real estate program or they came from wealthy suburbs where they saw their friends parents doing it. It goes without saying why there were historically no people of color or women in real estate, but the reason it's slow to improve is probably just that many people of color and women don't even know the career path exists. 

Our firm makes an effort to look for these candidates and we really don't get that many resumes that aren't white guys. It's not as if we are purposely hiring white guys, but that there are just way more of them applying to positions than people of color or women. 

 

Become an owner/operator/developer so that Brad from JLL or Chad from CBRE will compete for your business. What other satisfaction can be greater than that. Yes it’s easier said than done, but dont get disheartened, instead use it as fuel and work towards your goals. Start from the bottom, be smart but take risks and once you are an owner/operator/developer, the Brads and Chads will dance to your tunes. 

 

Sensitive bro? When this kid makes it in life ,  and when he has to decide between hiring a Brad from JLL or Chad from CBRE, an old white guy is still being hired, so you can relax. There will still be a job for you, that is of course unless you do not want to wine and dine or bend over backwards for someone who does not look like you.

 

Sounds like JLL didn’t accept you. Maybe you have a chance at your Uncle Jeff’s self storage business while the diversity hires get the BX and KKR roles (because they’re smart) a low GPA, non-target like you could only dream of. Move along “Ty” and bring your clearly racially tense attitudes to a dumber part of the internet that isn’t WSO.

 

Because real estate, and especially brokerage, is extremely network-dependent.  Which is why in NYC so many brokers come from Orthodox Jewish backgrounds - one of the largest ethno-religious groups of real estate owners is Jewish.  They give business to people in their community.  Because being a broker doesn't require anything in the way of special intelligence or knowledge, hires are generally made within the same community network.  

That being said, there are plenty of diversity initiatives in real estate, and plenty of pre-existing diversity, so acting like your 15 seconds of Googling is somehow representative of anything is extremely disingenuous.

Also, brokerage is a tiny part of CRE, so your already too-small sample size is even more meaningless.

 

Until the last 10-15 years, Commercial Real Estate was not an institutionalized and well known industry. In a lot of ways, even now, it isn't understood let alone on the forefront of people's minds. Type A, intelligent kids want to be engineers, lawyers, doctors, or CEOs, and unsurprisingly, college and then law school, med school, or business school are the socially familiar ways of "making it." People don't grow up wanting to get into this industry. Traditionally, they got into this industry because their dad was in this industry. 

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Agree with CRE. Additionally, it depends on the company size and specialty. I’m in Atlanta and find many big brokers have actively been hiring more diverse talent especially for junior roles. However, the acquisition world here is HEAVY on the white males lol. Probably because they don’t hire junior-level as much and it’s very dependent on the relationship building, which realistically is easier if you’re a white guy who grew up here and went to UGA. Other markets may be different though.

 
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Until the last 10-15 years, Commercial Real Estate was not an institutionalized and well known industry. In a lot of ways, even now, it isn't understood let alone on the forefront of people's minds. Type A, intelligent kids want to be engineers, lawyers, doctors, or CEOs, and unsurprisingly, college and then law school, med school, or business school are the socially familiar ways of "making it." People don't grow up wanting to get into this industry. Traditionally, they got into this industry because their dad was in this industry. 

Good comment. I would add that things have shifted in the last 10-12 years or so and making it to many folks (esp upper middle class ones) no longer looks like becoming a doctor, lawyer, engineer in the same way it was in the past. This is greatly compounded by just how much it costs to successfully enter those professions in modern times. Making it seems to be more about being a well-paid entrepreneur (despite how hard that is to accomplish in reality) to a certain group of folks.

 

I think it's a little bit of everything.....I think it's family ties/community ties. As others have said, a brokerage in NYC is heavily orthodox, and they work with many from their community. Therefore, it just propagates. They trust the person, and since the spreads will be the same, they work with that person. Then, many on the IS side and Originations have family legacies. Many owner-operators have family ties and go into the family business. Any of the women I know, their father or mother, were also in the industry. Most of our interns are friends of the Execs kids and whatnot. There are not many women candidates. Now POC, I think, doesn't really go into the programs; around the mid-Atlantic, there are a couple of big wealth advisors and MDLBs that recruit heavily from the HBCUs that have really good business schools. I know when hiring, we don't look at any demographic of who we hire; it's typically someone who knows someone from school or a prior employer and brings them over when hiring. Now, if you look at the Federal side of CRE, mainly in MF, you have a large, diverse population at Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, FHFA, and HUD. Lots of diversity of GC at almost any corporate or CRE-specific law firm. So it's mainly who goes into CRE, it seems, since it seems supporting industries have plenty of diversity. 

 

The industry has gotten more diverse over the past 15 - 20 years.  When I was first starting out, I did feel somewhat like a minority person, as I was the only one.  I felt I had to prove myself not just for me but also those who would come after me.  Also, building a deep relationship with people not from your home culture, it didn’t come as naturally as say with people with a lot of commonalities.  But I’ve learned to be a curious person, with many interests, travel experiences, and open mindedness.  I remember going to an exclusive industry conference in Dallas of institutional level CEO’s and partners and there were 5 people of color amongst 200 attendees.  One of the people who looked like me (except way older) was a respected real estate developer.  So I asked him, how did you do it?  This is what he wrote me (below).
 

The part about learning your craft, embracing who you are, having fun, learning to play the game, and sharing with and mentoring others, really stuck with me.  Earlier in my career, I would share this email with my close friends who just needed a pep talk.  I hope you take the ball and run with it - and pay it forward.
 

Young people today have very little guidance in terms of being taken
"under the wings of".  In the office and in business there are many
smart people.  But smart people do not equate to wise people and often
they cannot distill how they got to where they are.  More often than
not, they are unwilling to share. Unfortunately our parents who love us
very much often have some generational gap or in our cases enough of a
cultural gap that they cannot readily help us on a job and career basis
either.  But love them for they gave us the opportunity.

We are unique for we are multicultural!  We have the extra burden of
dealing with our race and culture which is far different from being
vanilla American, and then we also have to assimilate well in the
business world that we operate in.  

Then we have to deal with how to excel in those circumstances.  We must
not and cannot afford the business world to slot us because we are "Asian" as some mathematical or financial nerd.  

When people look at me business wise, I have been able to demonstrate
excellence in Finance, Construction, Marketing, Design, Management,
Legal, and many other business facets.  I worked at that to get there.

When they deal with me as a person, they see a fun outgoing gregarious
person with lots of interests and commonalities.  I worked at that to get there.

So be purposeful, have fun, be inquisitive, and excel beyond your comfort zone.  We all like what we are familiar with.  But that is never good enough.  Try and attack the areas that you would think of last to work on.  Chances are they are the most important areas you need to hone.  And any work on new areas requires time, effort and some pain.
You do not gain without some sacrifice.  It is well worth it at the end.

Then when you have evolved and learned to master some ways of living and
working, go out and share it with some others for many too have no mentors.  Make a difference!

Have compassion as well as ambition and you’ll go far in life. Check out my blog at MemoryVideo.com
 

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