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narmer9
    
 
(Chimp, 2
 
Points)
  on 2/12/12 at 7:29am

Hello everyone. I signed up at Cheng's website a couple of months ago. I've been reading all his emails to me and the materials on his website. Now, I'm thinking of purchasing the program because I have a case interview coming up next month. Should I go ahead and purchase the program? It's expensive for me since I'm an undergrad so is it possible to get used? Any help is appreciated. TIA

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redninja's picture

This has been discussed

redninja
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(Senior Orangutan, 450
 
Points)
  on 2/12/12 at 8:55am

This has been discussed before - just search for Victor Cheng and see what pops up. Consensus is that it's not worth it unless you split it with a bunch of other people.

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Geoff-LA's picture

Books are a better

Geoff-LA
    
 
(Chimp, 9
 
Points)
  on 2/13/12 at 2:54pm

Books are a better investment. Though if you already spend on an MBA, i guess LOMS wont make the difference..

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bbjhva's picture

I think buy case in point and

bbjhva
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(Orangutan, 297
 
Points)
  on 2/13/12 at 11:01pm

I think buy case in point and use victor cheng as an added bit of material.

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The WSO Case Interview Guide

WallStreetOasis.com
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(Human, 10,266
 
Points)
  on 2/14/12 at 12:53am

The WSO Case Interview Guide with a lot of practice is all you need: http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/guide/consulting-case-interviews

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Frabjous's picture

Well, Victor Cheng himself

Frabjous
     CO
 
(Senior Baboon, 223
 
Points)
  on 2/14/12 at 3:00am

Well, Victor Cheng himself admitted that the LOMS is most useful if you don't have anyone to practice with. If you do, just using the WSO guide and his freely available material should be enough.

I dislike case in point.

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Rana Clamitans's picture

I didn't have people to

Rana Clamitans
     CO
 
(Orangutan, 268
 
Points)
  on 2/14/12 at 5:27am

I didn't have people to practice cases with.

I read part of Case in Point and did not find it very useful, if at all, really.

I purchased LOMS full retail without splitting the cost with anyone.

I got the job.

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redninja's picture

Rana, what does you buying

redninja
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(Senior Orangutan, 450
 
Points)
  on 2/14/12 at 12:10pm

Rana, what does you buying LOMS full retail and not splitting the cost with everyone have to do with you getting the job? Not everyone has $500 to line Victor Cheng's pockets, and not everyone who has bought LOMS gets an offer.

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Frabjous's picture

I think his point was that in

Frabjous
     CO
 
(Senior Baboon, 223
 
Points)
  on 2/14/12 at 12:16pm

I think his point was that in his subjective view, the full retail price for LOMS was worth it.

Is that such an offensive statement?

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Rana Clamitans's picture

Redninja, you need to work on

Rana Clamitans
     CO
 
(Orangutan, 268
 
Points)
  on 2/14/12 at 12:36pm

Redninja, you need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

Frabjous does not.

Also, it doesnt cost 500 bucks.

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fresh_monkey's picture

Start with Case in Point.

fresh_monkey
    
 
(Chimp, 11
 
Points)
  on 2/14/12 at 9:29pm

Start with Case in Point. Very helpful in framing your thinking the right way.

With regards to practicing communication, finding a sharp interview partner is the best. If that is not possible, I recommend the sample case videos on firmsconsulting.com

Cheers.

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Bombit's picture

To me, Rana was just sharing

Bombit
    
 
(Senior Chimp, 28
 
Points)
  on 2/16/12 at 3:49pm

To me, Rana was just sharing his experience, perspective, and the fact that he got the job. I don't understand why everybody here has to share the same attitude towards a product. 1st Amendment, man!

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redninja's picture

Doesn't the 1st amendment

redninja
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(Senior Orangutan, 450
 
Points)
  on 2/17/12 at 8:03pm

Doesn't the 1st amendment give me the right to call out Victor Cheng and his products? Charging desperate students $500 for his opinions and advice is kind of ridiculous.

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Frabjous's picture

redninja wrote: Doesn't the

Frabjous
     CO
 
(Senior Baboon, 223
 
Points)
  on 2/19/12 at 3:32pm
redninja:

Doesn't the 1st amendment give me the right to call out Victor Cheng and his products? Charging desperate students $500 for his opinions and advice is kind of ridiculous.

Of course it does.

But if you (intentionally or not) attack Rana for saying something he didn't say (which is: I got an offer because I got LOMS), don't be surprised if people apply snark towards your reading comprehension. ;)

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Alastor's picture

$ 300, not worth it. IMHO.

Alastor
     CO
 
(Chimp, 5
 
Points)
  on 2/22/12 at 9:53am

$ 300, not worth it. IMHO. Live practice still beats it.

Edit: practice with people over Skype using consulting club caseguides.

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Riffs's picture

I'm always surprised to see

Riffs
    
 
(Monkey, 43
 
Points)
  on 2/26/12 at 3:12am

I'm always surprised to see people commenting on the price of various materials. The prices of these books and programs (LOMS) are miniscule considering your career and livelihood for the next 40-50 years are at stake.

Live practice is obviously the best, and if you can get 40-50 cases (with good partners) under your belt you're golden. However, I'd rather get there with a fully fledged arsenal of tools up my sleeve to reduce my risk of failing.

At the end of the day, most of the people you practice with over Skype are other students who will give you almost no constructive or meaningful feedback, so you need some way to ensure that you're on the right track (getting the final answer correct is just part of the case, your voice tone, methodology, etc. are also key). Some of these ways include listening to LOMS which are real cases, paying to practice with real MBB consultants and/or networking with alumni/friends/whoever else is in consulting to run a few cases with you for free.

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Xepa's picture

I used his free material to

Xepa
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(Senior Baboon, 200
 
Points)
  on 2/26/12 at 8:59pm

I used his free material to get my job, and he honestly helped me a lot. I swear by him, but I'll say that the free content is more than enough.

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