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chicandtoughness's picture
chicandtoughness
     ER
 
(Senior Baboon, 192
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 12:27pm
pulling-hair-out.jpg

Won't waste time whining; here's the lowdown:

-- Semi-target, 3.3 GPA double major in Finance/Economics, graduating this May
-- Sent resumes to 80+ firms, including all BBs/MMs/elite boutiques along with a ton of local boutiques.
-- Have gotten ~15 first-rounds (mainly MMs and elite boutiques; think Laz/Evercore/Miller Buckfire) and 6 superdays, no offers.
-- Cold-called 40+ firms, most respond with either "Get in touch with us closer to your graduation date" or "We're not hiring for full-time entry-level analysts right now."
-- Networked extensively, mainly through alums, LinkedIn, and phone calls.

I've been targeting ER, although I will not complain at all about an IB offer.

I'm not quite sure what else to do, short of continuing on as I have been and hoping someone takes a chance on me. Should I attempt to apply for SA positions? Try to get unpaid spring internships? Attempt to write my own reports and publish them on SeekingAlpha or something to prove my interest? Honestly, I'm out of ideas and the bleakness of the job market nowadays doesn't help at all. It also seems really late to be STILL searching for FT offers - most firms have wrapped that up...

"I can't wait to start working so I can auto-ding anyone who puts an objective/profile/qualifications section on their resume."
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ConanDBull's picture

keep it wet and cup the

ConanDBull
     CO
 
(Senior Orangutan, 480
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 12:48pm

keep it wet and cup the balls?

"Know what to do, know how to do it, and do it hard." - Juan Castillo

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oldmansacks's picture

getting those interview you

oldmansacks
     VC
 
 
(King Kong, 1,432
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 12:53pm

getting those interview you mentioned is pretty impressive with a 3.3 gpa. It is a tough market, keep at it. i'm in a similar situation.

i would def. make this semester highly productive (internship, publish ur shit, financial modeling training, networking) good luck.

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cheese86's picture

I think you need to work on

cheese86
     ST
 
(Senior Orangutan, 427
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 1:02pm

I think you need to work on your interview skills...15 first rounds is a lot of chances

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Neighbor's picture

cheese86 wrote: I think you

Neighbor
     IB
 
(King Kong, 1,140
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 1:31pm
cheese86:

I think you need to work on your interview skills...15 first rounds is a lot of chances

This. Even that amount of interviews is impressive for a 3.3 gpa. And 6 superdays where there are only 1-3 candidates and you were chosen for none of them? Maybe you smell bad or something.

I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you.

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Pike's picture

You need to Network, Network,

Pike
    
 
(King Kong, 1,033
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 1:31pm

You need to Network, Network, Network. I had a smiliar situation when I was going through recruitment: sub 3.5 GPA, semi/non-target, liberal arts major....had 20+ first rounds, 4 superdays, 1 IBD offer. It happens...but happy to help if I can...PM me.

Good is the enemy of Great

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BigHedgeHog's picture

The problem for him isn't

BigHedgeHog
    
 
(Senior Monkey, 89
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 1:57pm

The problem for him isn't networking but rather it's that he can't close any of the leads (ie: super days).

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inspireddude's picture

have you tried contacting

inspireddude
    
 
(Senior Monkey, 90
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 1:58pm

have you tried contacting some of the people you interviewed with? shoot a quick couple line e-mail asking if there's something you can improve upon...6 s'days and no offers...rough. good luck

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Rupert Pupkin's picture

As others have stated, it

Rupert Pupkin
     IB
 
 
(Senior Gorilla, 816
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 2:03pm

As others have stated, it sounds like your weakness is interviewing. If it's that you just do poorly because of nerves, then that is something you can work on. If it's because you naturally come off as someone who no interviewer wants to work with, then you have a problem that can't be fixed.

I don't think applying for SA positions is going to help you because you're going to run into the same question every time regarding why you are in this position. Networking your ass off is just about your only hope at this stage in the game.

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Scott Irish's picture

On a side note, why did Pike

Scott Irish
     O
 
(Baboon, 129
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 2:09pm

On a side note, why did Pike deserve MS?

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ConanDBull's picture

I know i made that crass

ConanDBull
     CO
 
(Senior Orangutan, 480
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 2:20pm

I know i made that crass remark in the beginning, and I may sound like and even bigger jerk because of this, but what do you look like? how are you dressing to these things... because 15 interviews and 6 superdays really is alot...

"Know what to do, know how to do it, and do it hard." - Juan Castillo

If you are in the Toronto Area join my group "Toronto Prospective Monkeys"
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melvvvar's picture

your stats fucking suck, what

melvvvar
    
 
(King Kong, 1,102
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 2:28pm

your stats fucking suck, what did you expect? the sense of entitlement here is fucking ridiculous.

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melvvvar wrote: your stats

umadlol
    
 
(Monkey, 62
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 2:38pm
melvvvar:

your stats fucking suck, what did you expect? the sense of entitlement here is fucking ridiculous.

This isn't strictly wrong, but to get so many super days with a 3.3 from a semi target means he's doing SOMETHING right. I have a feeling its more about composure and soft factors than anything. Doing a 6 hour superday is a lot harder than a 30 minute phone interview where you just don't have to fuck up too bad. Maybe OP isn't taking any risks, not differentiating himself from the competition, giving safe answers, or just being awkward in general.

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melvvvar wrote: your stats

Flake
     ER
 
(Neanderthal, 3,468
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 2:43pm
melvvvar:

your stats fucking suck, what did you expect? the sense of entitlement here is fucking ridiculous.

Can we be friends?

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.

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melvvvar wrote: your stats

Bollinger
    
 
(Monkey, 51
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 2:45pm
melvvvar:

your stats fucking suck, what did you expect? the sense of entitlement here is fucking ridiculous.

15 interviews...good luck getting that with your apparently amazing stats!

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UFOinsider's picture

WORK ON YOUR INTERVIEWING

UFOinsider
     O
 
(Almost Human, 8,133
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 3:28pm

WORK ON YOUR INTERVIEWING SKILLS MAN!

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0904/chill-out...

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John Rolfe's picture

Any tips on how to improve

John Rolfe
     IB
 
(Orangutan, 316
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 4:09pm

Any tips on how to improve interviewing skills? I know WSO has a mock interview thing but 200 is a lot for an undergrad....

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chicandtoughness's picture

melvvvar wrote: your stats

chicandtoughness
     ER
 
(Senior Baboon, 192
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 4:25pm
melvvvar:

your stats fucking suck, what did you expect? the sense of entitlement here is fucking ridiculous.

I am very well aware that my stats "fucking suck"; I was extremely surprised that I got as many superdays as I did, given my absolutely shit-ass GPA.

I've spoken with some of my superday interviewers; apparently I don't sound "interested enough" in IB/ER judging from my past experiences. Understandable, since I only decided on finance in my junior year (although I had an SA position last summer at MM for IB, they don't do return offers)... which is why I'm now asking, what are some things I can do now to further show interest in the job area? I've done both BIWS and WSPrep, I follow the markets, yadayada. Short of the obvious things (investing, organizations, modeling classes, etc.), what else can a person do to distinguish themselves and "show their passion"?

"I can't wait to start working so I can auto-ding anyone who puts an objective/profile/qualifications section on their resume."

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chicandtoughness's picture

tlynch5 wrote: [This. Even

chicandtoughness
     ER
 
(Senior Baboon, 192
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 4:34pm
tlynch5:

[This. Even that amount of interviews is impressive for a 3.3 gpa. And 6 superdays where there are only 1-3 candidates and you were chosen for none of them? Maybe you smell bad or something.

Haha! Though in my defense all of the "superdays" involved anywhere from 10-40 people and only 1-2 positions, so by sheer numbers I'm sure my chances were worse than 1/3. If it is indeed the body odor, then I have no words and should probably give up now :(

ConanDBull:

I know i made that crass remark in the beginning, and I may sound like and even bigger jerk because of this, but what do you look like? how are you dressing to these things... because 15 interviews and 6 superdays really is alot...

I didn't think it crass, lol. 1) I'm a chick. 2) Standard business formal attire, dress suit.

"I can't wait to start working so I can auto-ding anyone who puts an objective/profile/qualifications section on their resume."

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chicandtoughness

UFOinsider
     O
 
(Almost Human, 8,133
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 4:31pm
chicandtoughness:
melvvvar:

your stats fucking suck, what did you expect? the sense of entitlement here is fucking ridiculous.

I am very well aware that my stats "fucking suck"; I was extremely surprised that I got as many superdays as I did, given my absolutely shit-ass GPA.

I've spoken with some of my superday interviewers; apparently I don't sound "interested enough" in IB/ER judging from my past experiences. Understandable, since I only decided on finance in my junior year (although I had an SA position last summer at MM for IB, they don't do return offers)... which is why I'm now asking, what are some things I can do now to further show interest in the job area? I've done both BIWS and WSPrep, I follow the markets, yadayada. Short of the obvious things (investing, organizations, modeling classes, etc.), what else can a person do to distinguish themselves and "show their passion"?

OP, ignore this guy, he's a heckler.

Seriously though, how on God's good earth do you not get a job out of 15 interviews???

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0904/chill-out...

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chicandtoughness wrote: 1)

rynofrowan
     ST
 
(Baboon, 174
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 4:46pm
chicandtoughness:

1) I'm a chick. 2

3.3 AND a chick. gg

Moving tonnes of product. Making fat stacks.

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RE Capital Markets's picture

chicandtoughness wrote: Won't

RE Capital Markets
     O
 
 
(Senior Orangutan, 430
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 5:16pm
chicandtoughness:

Won't waste time whining; here's the lowdown:

-- Semi-target, 3.3 GPA double major in Finance/Economics, graduating this May
-- Sent resumes to 80+ firms, including all BBs/MMs/elite boutiques along with a ton of local boutiques.
-- Have gotten ~15 first-rounds (mainly MMs and elite boutiques; think Laz/Evercore/Miller Buckfire) and 6 superdays, no offers.
-- Cold-called 40+ firms, most respond with either "Get in touch with us closer to your graduation date" or "We're not hiring for full-time entry-level analysts right now."
-- Networked extensively, mainly through alums, LinkedIn, and phone calls.

I've been targeting ER, although I will not complain at all about an IB offer.

I'm not quite sure what else to do, short of continuing on as I have been and hoping someone takes a chance on me. Should I attempt to apply for SA positions? Try to get unpaid spring internships? Attempt to write my own reports and publish them on SeekingAlpha or something to prove my interest? Honestly, I'm out of ideas and the bleakness of the job market nowadays doesn't help at all. It also seems really late to be STILL searching for FT offers - most firms have wrapped that up...

Strange that you would have 6 superday interviews and 0 offers to show for it. Your GPA isnt the issue, you are passing that screen by getting first round interviews. Your attitude isnt the problem, you are passing the 1st/2nd rounds and moving onto supers. Lack of networking doesnt seem to be the case, nor is the lack of relevant internship exp.

The issue is an over-competitive talent pool in a down year. Finance job mkt is awful this year (like 2009 awful). Something like 200k finance employees got laid off in 2011, with more projected in 2012. There was a detailed discussion about layoffs this year on this site, it was grim.

Really, there isnt much more you can do other than network more. I recommend you seek other opportunities. Not the advice you wanted, I know, but there is a big world out there outside of finance. Good luck.

Man made money, money never made the man

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RE Capital Markets's picture

chicandtoughness wrote: I've

RE Capital Markets
     O
 
 
(Senior Orangutan, 430
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 5:14pm
chicandtoughness:

I've spoken with some of my superday interviewers; apparently I don't sound "interested enough" in IB/ER judging from my past experiences. Understandable, since I only decided on finance in my junior year (although I had an SA position last summer at MM for IB, they don't do return offers)... which is why I'm now asking, what are some things I can do now to further show interest in the job area? I've done both BIWS and WSPrep, I follow the markets, yadayada. Short of the obvious things (investing, organizations, modeling classes, etc.), what else can a person do to distinguish themselves and "show their passion"?

It irritates me when interviewers are cryptic like this. What they should of said is your competitive peers sounded more interested then you did, not that you didnt sound interested enough. Again, this just reflects how competitve this year's talent pool is. You're obviously interested enough in finance.

Man made money, money never made the man

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bfin's picture

Straight up learn to

bfin
     CF
 
(Neanderthal, 2,570
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 5:15pm

Straight up learn to interview. Don't need to network more. Interview better. Also the job market sucks...but you should be able to close at least 1 of 6 superdays.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

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JWR34's picture

I agree that not getting any

JWR34
     IB
 
(Orangutan, 271
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 5:30pm

I agree that not getting any results from 6 superdays indicates that there is something wrong with your interviewing skills (although to be fair it sounds like you were interviewing at smaller places without many spots on offer). I would read through everything www.mergersandinquisitions.com has to say on interviewing and perhaps even purchase their course on interviewing (through www.breakingintowallstreet.com for $100). It has the best interview guide and also has detailed videos that walk you through how to tell your story, which will probably help you to be able to better convey your interest in the positions.

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RE Capital Markets's picture

I dont think the OP's

RE Capital Markets
     O
 
 
(Senior Orangutan, 430
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 5:53pm

I dont think the OP's interviewing skills were the issue. If that was the case, she wouldnt have gotten 6 super days.

OP's luck is outside of her control now. There is near nothing OP could do that would increase her chances in this year's recruiting cycle.

Man made money, money never made the man

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Sexy_Like_Enrique's picture

I am shocked that you landed

Sexy_Like_Enrique
    
 
(Gorilla, 703
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 6:22pm

I am shocked that you landed that many interviews with 3.3 GPA from a non target college. that's sick. I know many kids from Ivies with 3.5+ GPA who got like 2 interviews.

Btw, how did you not end up with an offer, after having like 15 interviews?? Such a waste of an opportunity. If I got that many interviews and fucked things up, I would fucking cut my balls off or something

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chicandtoughness's picture

^ Dude, if I knew the answer

chicandtoughness
     ER
 
(Senior Baboon, 192
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 6:26pm

^ Dude, if I knew the answer to that question I wouldn't be posting here :( I can't say I'm not pissed off, but I suppose I just don't interview very well despite practicing. Just need to try harder, I guess!

"I can't wait to start working so I can auto-ding anyone who puts an objective/profile/qualifications section on their resume."

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chicandtoughness wrote: ^

Sexy_Like_Enrique
    
 
(Gorilla, 703
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 6:30pm
chicandtoughness:

^ Dude, if I knew the answer to that question I wouldn't be posting here :( I can't say I'm not pissed off, but I suppose I just don't interview very well despite practicing. Just need to try harder, I guess!

Damn dude, I feel ya. Btw, congrats on getting such many interviews with 3.3 GPA, honestly, that's fucking ballin'. I haven't heard of anyone at my college (ivy) with gpa around yours having such success in landing so many interviews. That's fucking sick.

But, going 0 for 15 means there is clearly something about your interviewing ability that needs to be evaluated. If i had that great of an opportunity and fucked things up, I would be so fucking pissed I will break my laptop, get fucking drunk, buy some prostitutes, and start hate fucking for like 5 days like a fucking ape.

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RE Capital Markets wrote: I

Maximus Decimus...
    
 
(Orangutan, 361
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 6:34pm
RE Capital Markets:

I dont think the OP's interviewing skills were the issue. If that was the case, she wouldnt have gotten 6 super days.

OP's luck is outside of her control now. There is near nothing OP could do that would increase her chances in this year's recruiting cycle.

I disagree. 6 superdays out of 15 interviews doesn't sound very good to me either.

To the OP, you clearly have the CV and networking if you got 15 interviews. But if out of that you only got 6 superdays and 0 offers you clearly are doing something wrong at interviews. Unfortunately we can't help you there, since we haven't actually seen you interview. If interviewers are telling you that, it might be that even though you clearly have the interest your communication skills are not great and that interest is not coming across during the interview. I will say that I found WSO Behavioral Interview Guide very helpful in learning how to convey your message clearly.

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BepBep12's picture

He goes to a semi-target....

BepBep12
     CF
 
(Senior Orangutan, 460
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 7:26pm

He goes to a semi-target....

OP it's a 'you' problem, fix it.

'Before you enter... be willing to pay the price'

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Black?

Fictitious capital
    
 
(Senior Chimp, 22
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 8:32pm

Black?

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whatwhatwhat's picture

wear a shorter skirt to

whatwhatwhat
     HF
 
(King Kong, 1,116
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 8:46pm

wear a shorter skirt to interviews and cleave it up too

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monkeyc's picture

tlynch5 wrote: cheese86

monkeyc
    
 
(Orangutan, 267
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 9:01pm
tlynch5:
cheese86:

I think you need to work on your interview skills...15 first rounds is a lot of chances

This. Even that amount of interviews is impressive for a 3.3 gpa. And 6 superdays where there are only 1-3 candidates and you were chosen for none of them? Maybe you smell bad or something.

i actually think that's where 3.3 semi-target kills you, when there is a direct comparison to be made between you and some kid from a better school with better grades. Before that, someone mid-level batting for can keep you in the game, but the final hiring decision you need to impress everyone enough that they take a chance, the analysts want to work with you, and the MDs can feel comfortable hiring you

or do something related for a couple years (big 4), then GMAT and bschool and you should be set

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Fictitious capital

chicandtoughness
     ER
 
(Senior Baboon, 192
 
Points)
  on 1/10/12 at 11:06pm
Fictitious capital:

Black?

Nope. Asian. Maybe that contributes to not being memorable. I've definitely had a MD squint at me and say, "Wait, didn't I interview you earlier today?" No, just another Asian female who looks nothing like me.

monkeyc:

or do something related for a couple years (big 4), then GMAT and bschool and you should be set

Yep, that's the plan for now.

"I can't wait to start working so I can auto-ding anyone who puts an objective/profile/qualifications section on their resume."

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chicandtoughness

xxix
    
 
(Baboon, 101
 
Points)
  on 1/11/12 at 6:22am
chicandtoughness:
Fictitious capital:

Black?

Nope. Asian. Maybe that contributes to not being memorable. I've definitely had a MD squint at me and say, "Wait, didn't I interview you earlier today?" No, just another Asian female who looks nothing like me.

monkeyc:

or do something related for a couple years (big 4), then GMAT and bschool and you should be set

Yep, that's the plan for now.

You're an asian chick and you can't get offers? You must be ugly, brah. troof.

Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor. -Dr. Alexis Carrel

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glasslamp's picture

I'm with RE Capital Markets

glasslamp
    
 
(Chimp, 11
 
Points)
  on 1/11/12 at 6:56am

I'm with RE Capital Markets on this. I think the OP is probably a pretty good interviewer to have gotten 6 superdays out of 15 first round interviews. And I think many of you are over estimating how easy it is these days to get an offer out of a superday. I know at several firms you can have as many as 10-20 kids interviewing for 1 full time offer slot. Those aren't great odds, and at the superday stage you are going against some very good candidates; if there are target school candidates there on the same day you might be at an even bigger disadvantage. Offers are very hard to come by. Keep your chin up OP - you are doing plenty right.

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Flake's picture

I'll interview you.

Flake
     ER
 
(Neanderthal, 3,468
 
Points)
  on 1/11/12 at 7:57am

I'll interview you.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.

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aempirei's picture

BigHedgeHog wrote: The

aempirei
     IB
 
(Gorilla, 562
 
Points)
  on 1/11/12 at 9:13am
BigHedgeHog:

The problem for him isn't networking but rather it's that he can't close any of the leads (ie: super days).

But the leads are weak . . .

My name is Nicky, but you can call me Dre.

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UFOinsider's picture

Flake wrote: I'll interview

UFOinsider
     O
 
(Almost Human, 8,133
 
Points)
  on 1/11/12 at 9:19am
Flake:

I'll interview you.

Wow, you really do like asians...

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0904/chill-out...

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Sexy_Like_Enrique's picture

glasslamp wrote: I'm with RE

Sexy_Like_Enrique
    
 
(Gorilla, 703
 
Points)
  on 1/11/12 at 12:55pm
glasslamp:

I'm with RE Capital Markets on this. I think the OP is probably a pretty good interviewer to have gotten 6 superdays out of 15 first round interviews. And I think many of you are over estimating how easy it is these days to get an offer out of a superday. I know at several firms you can have as many as 10-20 kids interviewing for 1 full time offer slot. Those aren't great odds, and at the superday stage you are going against some very good candidates; if there are target school candidates there on the same day you might be at an even bigger disadvantage. Offers are very hard to come by. Keep your chin up OP - you are doing plenty right.

any truth to this speculation that there is 20:1 competition at superday to get an offer? This sounds way too competitive, and doesn't sound right. usually, most people get 4-5 superdays and they end up with an offer or two. if it was this hard to get an offer after superday stage, I don't think anyone would get an offer.

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Sexy_Like_Enrique wrote: any

chicandtoughness
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Sexy_Like_Enrique:

any truth to this speculation that there is 20:1 competition at superday to get an offer? This sounds way too competitive, and doesn't sound right. usually, most people get 4-5 superdays and they end up with an offer or two. if it was this hard to get an offer after superday stage, I don't think anyone would get an offer.

If necessary I could name off a couple of the sdays I went to; there were definitely a ton of kids there, usually a morning + an afternoon round of anywhere from ~5-20 each. According to the associates/VPs I asked casually, they were all looking for only a few new additions (usually given as "about 2 new analysts").
I guess I'll make "looking hot" one of my new job search strategies :P

"I can't wait to start working so I can auto-ding anyone who puts an objective/profile/qualifications section on their resume."

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chicandtoughness

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chicandtoughness:
Sexy_Like_Enrique:

any truth to this speculation that there is 20:1 competition at superday to get an offer? This sounds way too competitive, and doesn't sound right. usually, most people get 4-5 superdays and they end up with an offer or two. if it was this hard to get an offer after superday stage, I don't think anyone would get an offer.

If necessary I could name off a couple of the sdays I went to; there were definitely a ton of kids there, usually a morning + an afternoon round of anywhere from ~5-20 each. According to the associates/VPs I asked casually, they were all looking for only a few new additions (usually given as "about 2 new analysts").
I guess I'll make "looking hot" one of my new job search strategies :P

wow, this is rough. so each bank hires about 2 new analysts and about 20 kids interview at superday. that's about 10:1 ratio.

Btw, do banks really hire only 2-3 new analysts per year? are these only small boutique firms you are talking about or also the BB's?

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oldmansacks wrote: getting

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  on 1/11/12 at 3:49pm
oldmansacks:

getting those interview you mentioned is pretty impressive with a 3.3 gpa. It is a tough market, keep at it. i'm in a similar situation.

i would def. make this semester highly productive (internship, publish ur shit, financial modeling training, networking) good luck.

Agreed. its an incredible feat to get interviews with such a low gpa...considering elite boutiques dont look at you if you dont have a 3.7 during OCR.

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i'll bet anything that this

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i'll bet anything that this chick isn't hot.

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You need to turn the

illiniPride
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You need to turn the interview so that they are trying to impress you just as much as you are trying to impress them.

Leadership can be defined in two words: "Follow Me"

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chicandtoughness wrote: I

rynofrowan
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  on 1/11/12 at 6:06pm
chicandtoughness:

I guess I'll make "looking hot" one of my new job search strategies :P

face like a smahsed crab. making sure you look hot is standard...if you're hot...

melvaar +1

Moving tonnes of product. Making fat stacks.

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How dare you insult my

chicandtoughness
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How dare you insult my appearance! -sob- Hot is subjective, I try my best with what I've got :P and even if I didn't, that's not something I can fix -without- a hefty bonus to pay for my plastic surgery :( Man, what a circular issue.

Sexy_Like_Enrique:

are these only small boutique firms you are talking about or also the BB's?

Didn't interview at BB's (no way could I have gotten there with my shitty GPA). Although a friend at an Ivy said that MS only took 2 from their superday. I interviewed with 3 elite boutiques. First rounds at Greenhill/Evercore and superday at Lazard in a regional office - there were 10 candidates and 1 available position.

"I can't wait to start working so I can auto-ding anyone who puts an objective/profile/qualifications section on their resume."

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chicandtoughness wrote: How

Sexy_Like_Enrique
    
 
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  on 1/12/12 at 12:55pm
chicandtoughness:

How dare you insult my appearance! -sob- Hot is subjective, I try my best with what I've got :P and even if I didn't, that's not something I can fix -without- a hefty bonus to pay for my plastic surgery :( Man, what a circular issue.

Sexy_Like_Enrique:

are these only small boutique firms you are talking about or also the BB's?

Didn't interview at BB's (no way could I have gotten there with my shitty GPA). Although a friend at an Ivy said that MS only took 2 from their superday. I interviewed with 3 elite boutiques. First rounds at Greenhill/Evercore and superday at Lazard in a regional office - there were 10 candidates and 1 available position.

This is brutal. Was your office in large city, like Chicago or LA?

Try to go for Big4 accounting or F500 corp finance. Get 3-4 years of experience, then go for top 10 MBA. After that, getting into banking as an associate won't be too difficult. Try to take some comfort knowing that being an IB analyst kind of sucks...

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Sexy_Like_Enrique

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Sexy_Like_Enrique:
chicandtoughness:

How dare you insult my appearance! -sob- Hot is subjective, I try my best with what I've got :P and even if I didn't, that's not something I can fix -without- a hefty bonus to pay for my plastic surgery :( Man, what a circular issue.

Sexy_Like_Enrique:

are these only small boutique firms you are talking about or also the BB's?

Didn't interview at BB's (no way could I have gotten there with my shitty GPA). Although a friend at an Ivy said that MS only took 2 from their superday. I interviewed with 3 elite boutiques. First rounds at Greenhill/Evercore and superday at Lazard in a regional office - there were 10 candidates and 1 available position.

This is brutal. Was your office in large city, like Chicago or LA?

Try to go for Big4 accounting or F500 corp finance. Get 3-4 years of experience, then go for top 10 MBA. After that, getting into banking as an associate won't be too difficult. Try to take some comfort knowing that being an IB analyst kind of sucks...

This isn't brutal, it's par with a stagnant economy. 10% chance x 15 interviews = you need to work on your interviewing skills. Associate recruiting is actually tougher than analyst recruiting, and there are multiple in depth interviews.

200 bucks is a small price to pay for the job you want...buy the interviewing guide.

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0904/chill-out...

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The funnel for all boutiques

illiniPride
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The funnel for all boutiques is brutal. 200-300 applicants per opening and you have to convince them you are the best.

Leadership can be defined in two words: "Follow Me"

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