I think I'm in romantic love with ANT right about now....wow...

I completely agree. I honestly don't see it as that big of a deal. It could be worse--they could have been alive when they were getting pissed on.

I know where you're coming from, ANT, and love the rage. Ultimately I agree with Dave Winkler, too. I'm a former Marine and served in this unit, actually. I was sick watching the video, but I also knew the things those young men had to see, and I get how it happened. I don't like it, and I never would defend desecrating a corpse, but these Taliban are POS.

That said, I saw videos of Zarqawi beheading people, and I would dig that guy up tomorrow to piss on him.

"They are fucking retards for recording it, but it always amazes me how we never back these kids up."

That's a good point too, ANT. These are kids, and they're going to get royally fucked by Uncle Sam for political expediency. The same Uncle Sam who sent them to get shot at or blown up by dudes like this.

You need help.

So says the guy with 10,000+ banana points.

I loved the quotes: "have a good day, buddy" and "golden, like a shower". I also loved how the Taliban spokesman said it is an outrageous act that no religion would resort to...yeah pretty sure I'd rather have someone take a piss on my dead body than blow me up on a crowded bus.

I owe you an SB ANT, couldn't agree more.

Wow. You are actually out of your fucking mind, ANT.

Taking advantage of the fact that the SB/MS feature is disabled I see, Ant.

There are really only two schools of thought on this:

1) Sometimes when the enemy has been shot they will play dead until you get close and then pull the pin on a grenade to kill you. When I was still in the Marines they told us we weren't allowed to dead-check guys anymore by double-tapping them, so maybe this was just their way of making sure they were really dead.

2) They were being thoughtful and ensuring that these nasty fucks would catch on fire when they get to hell.

ANT, thank you for your insightful post.

Here's some more applaudable Marine action for you to jack off to

http://www.bluestatepress.com/politics2/news_046.htm

ANT. The name is bluestatepress.

I have to say I have all sorts of feelings about this one.

First, I'm a bit disappointed in these Marines. I mean, what happened to the good ole' days of just killing someone and then shitting on them? To resort to merely pissing on the corpse just shows how feminized our military has become.

Second, I'm angry that they would video tape this. People do stupid shit, all the time...the key to getting away with it is to not document any of it, because it is going to find it's way to the internet.

On a serious note, I do wish these soldiers and Marines would think through what they are about to do. While I am not offended they did this, it doesn't take a genius to know there will likely be severe consequences...so out of self preservation, I would like to see our fighting men make better decisions...even if that better decision just mean not recording the shit they are about to do. Doing this isn't going to get you promoted or awarded a medal, so if you MUST piss on the body, do it because it gives you a sense of satisfaction, not because you are trying to prove something to the enemy or showoff for your friends back home...after all, the enemy is governed by no rules of war and they will always be able to 'one up' you.

For all of the critics of the military, lets tread lightly when speaking of things you know little-to-nothing about. Lets also remember that most of these people are merely kids. What were you doing when you were 20? They are being forced to make life and death decisions and often, to take other people's lives or be killed. When you were 20 you were feeding jello shots to girls until they were nearly blackout drunk and then toeing the line between consensual sex and rape....so lets fucking be real. If you haven't been in the military and/or you haven't been in combat, shut your fucking mouth.

As a final point, and I hope no one gets too offended by this...but it's been my observation while in the military that fighting soldiers and Marines are a different breed...and Marines more than soldiers. Anyways, they remind me a lot of police dogs. People tend to think that police dogs are nice and then switch to mean at the handlers command...this is just not the case. Many of these dogs are conditioned to think that finding the bad guy or the drugs is a game...this is why you will notice their tales wagging and that they are often given a reward after apprehending a subject. In many ways this is similar to how our fighting soldiers are trained. They don't run around the middle east pissed off 24/7...they spend most of their time 'normal' and when they have mission or patrols they get amped-up, like they are getting put into the football game...like it's their time to sack the quarterback. This is the mentality they are given and sometimes this spills over and things like the pissing incident occur. Essentially these are young, partially immature males that are being asked to protect, die and kill for one another.

I'm sure some of you think your fraternity hazing was tough and that you have some concept of what it's like to be in the military but you don't. The fat chick you fucked on a dare, no matter how sweaty and hairy, just doesn't compare to even the average day for the average soldier that's deployed.

Remember, when you are having a tough go at school, your parents fly in and take you to dinner or you drive home and have mom cook you some grilled cheese. These kids are stuck in a dangerous place wondering if their marriage is going to survive being deployed again, wondering what their newborn looks like, wondering if their kids will recognize them when they get home, if they get home. Nobody is perfect and I'm not saying that no one should ever be punished for what they do when they are deployed but I'm just asking that those who have no fucking clue what it's like to be deployed away from the ones you love, cut the condescending, uninformed opinions.

Regards

Interesting and pretty enlightening analogies here.

I agree that these guys just screwed up. They have a whole different experience and outlook than we do back at home.

With that said, there is no reason to be glorifying this type of behavior. The whole "But Johnny did something terrible to me first so I have to do something terrible back to him" attitude doesn't help our perception abroad and certainly doesn't help the livelihoods of military personnel. As Americans, we should (figuratively) be the better man.

duffmt, I wouldn't compare beheading journalists and murdering civilians to pissing on corpses.

Damn, I bet it really sucks to be in 3/2 right now.

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Nowhere did I make that comparison. See the "be a better man" section of my post.