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Nobama88
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(King Kong, 1,431
 
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  on 6/9/11 at 8:27pm

Anyone else watching Cain on the Factor right now? He is right there with Newt, needs to get out.

I think he is completely embarrassing himself right now with these answers. . . where is our conservative?

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Herman Cain is a joke, his

gnicholas (not verified)
IB
 
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  on 6/9/11 at 8:49pm

Herman Cain is a joke, his main problem with the Health Care Bill was that it was "too many pages".

If Romney doesn't win the Republican nomination, then god help us all.

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gnicholas wrote: If Romney

ragnar danneskjöld
    
 
(Senior Baboon, 190
 
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  on 6/9/11 at 8:57pm
gnicholas:

If Romney doesn't win the Republican nomination, then god help us all.

^^^
I hope that is a joke?

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gnicholas wrote: Herman Cain

eokpar02
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(Senior Gorilla, 847
 
Points)
  on 6/9/11 at 9:22pm
gnicholas:

Herman Cain is a joke, his main problem with the Health Care Bill was that it was "too many pages".

If Romney doesn't win the Republican nomination, then god help us all.

People eat that shit up. After the first debate, I saw a room full of Republican voters who ate up his folksiness.

My Republican isn't even a Republican: Ron Paul. Its a shame his son his so prone to gaffes, they could be a dynasty. My second Republican would be Gary Johnson.

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment.
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I would like to see Christie,

Nobama88
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  on 6/9/11 at 9:43pm

I would like to see Christie, but obviously he will not run.

For the people who have thrown their hat into the ring, I have to go with Romney.

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bloomberg

awm55
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(Senior Gorilla, 937
 
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  on 6/9/11 at 10:22pm

bloomberg

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ragnar danneskjöld

txjustin
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  on 6/9/11 at 10:26pm
ragnar danneskjöld:
gnicholas:

If Romney doesn't win the Republican nomination, then god help us all.

^^^
I hope that is a joke?

X2!!

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Nobama88 wrote: I would like

ragnar danneskjöld
    
 
(Senior Baboon, 190
 
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  on 6/9/11 at 10:40pm
Nobama88:

I would like to see Christie, but obviously he will not run.

For the people who have thrown their hat into the ring, I have to go with Romney.

I seriously hope people evaluate Romney outside his experience with Bain before tossing him your vote... the guy flip flops more than a gang bang of Romanian gymnast on a trampoline.

Not going to matter though... I bet Rick Perry will be the nominee.

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That would be awesome if

westsidewolf1989
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(Senior Baboon, 191
 
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  on 6/9/11 at 11:09pm

That would be awesome if Texas could get rid of Rick Perry, I'm not even sure he's competent enough to run Texas A&M., much less a state or country. If liberals thought Bush was dumb, just wait until Rick Perry rolls into Washington.

It's by far Romney's to lose, and he knows it too since he's basically ignoring all the upcoming straw polls. Herman Cain has good ideas, but I get the sense that he just doesn't want to put in the effort necessary to learn about topics of debate. He basically explains how his "Cain Plan" was great, but won't work anymore because of things Obama has done...OK great, no one gives a f*** what would have worked in the past.

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I would love Bloomberg,

gnicholas (not verified)
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  on 6/10/11 at 12:04am

I would love Bloomberg, unfortunately it will never happen.

Perhaps this vitriol towards Romney, who I like very much, comes from the fact that I am not a registered Republican by any means. I am a moderate and vote on who I feel the best on an individual basis. So Romney's "flip flopping" or departure from the standard Republican positions does not make me like him any less.

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Nobama88 wrote: I would like

UFOinsider
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  on 6/10/11 at 12:40am
Nobama88:

I would like to see Christie, but obviously he will not run.

My money is on him keeping his nose clean [tough in Jersey] and then running in 2016. Christie as pres = pure awesome. All talk of a GOP victory in 2012 is delusional, sorry.

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0904/chill-out...

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While Obama may be in many

ProvincialPeasant
    
 
(Senior Monkey, 82
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 12:44am

While Obama may be in many senses unpopular and increasingly so, there is just no Republican candidate that could ever match his brand. In this sense, I hope Palin (or someone similar) is nominated. Otherwise, a good candidate in a winnable race will be wasted.

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ProvincialPeasant

UFOinsider
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(Almost Human, 8,131
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 12:52am
ProvincialPeasant:

While Obama may be in many senses unpopular and increasingly so, there is just no Republican candidate that could ever match his brand. In this sense, I hope Palin (or someone similar) is nominated. Otherwise, a good candidate in a winnable race will be wasted.

^ yes. This is part of the genius / good luck of Christie's statement of how he 'can't leave Jersey now' because everything he's worked on will be undone. He gets to play both sides of the debate: pure win if he runs for pres in 2016.

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0904/chill-out...

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As for Ron Paul, I think he

ProvincialPeasant
    
 
(Senior Monkey, 82
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 12:54am

As for Ron Paul, I think he is the most genuine politician America will have now or in the future. The problem is his age and unelectability. I certainly cannot imagine a libertarian revolution taking place, even if he were to win the Presidency. So many groups - America's own political elite and its defence community - have vested interests in the current status-quo. Not to mention other nations that rely on America militarily and diplomatically, or just for aid.

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I haven't watch the Cain

cphbravo96
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(Senior Neanderthal, 4,426
 
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  on 6/10/11 at 1:12am

I haven't watch the Cain interview yet because I'm stuck in the office late, but I was certainly worried about O'Reilly giving it to him. Unfortunately, one of his greatest attributes (not being a politician) will likely be his downfall. He seems like he could be a good leader and seems to have a ton of potential but he just doesn't seem as up-to-speed as he needs to be about foreign affairs. Also the comment about having the right plan before Obama messed things up is far too accurate...you can't say I knew what to do a year ago but it won't work anymore...you have to have a new plan that will work. Obviously it is extremely early and he has time to learn about all these things but I have my reservations about him. I think he would do well serving the Republican party in politics but I am being to withdraw my support for his presidential nomination. I'm being to think he doesn't have what it takes.

As far as Republicans not being able to win this election...you people are out of your fucking minds. Look at all of the recent polls. Among voters Obama is polling horribly and my honest thought is the economy is not getting any better between now and the voting booth. His largest base, blacks, statistically don't come out and vote in mid term elections...so he will lose a ton of support right there. Factor in the students that are now well aware of what Obama didn't bring to the table and you have another large base of support gone.

This will be a nasty election. Obama has nothing of substance to run on so he will have to either revert back to the Bush blame game, personally attack his opponent or a combination of both.

The Republicans can win this election if they man up and have the balls to call Obama out on all of his failed policies (Obamacare, the budget, the debt, the economy as a whole), his failed promises (GITMO, transparency, among others) and his lack of vision (energy). There are obviously countless more. Bottom line is that Obama over promised and severely under delivered.

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- Ronald Reagan

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As far as Ron Paul is

cphbravo96
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  on 6/10/11 at 1:21am

As far as Ron Paul is concerned...most people will think he is a nut job.

I actually agree with a ton of his points but some of them, like isolationism, just don't seem to be workable. We don't live in a day and age where you can spot thine enemy ships yonder. Me have enemies everywhere and we need to be proactive about keeping them at bay. Now, with that said, I do think we should address our international military deployments and strategically withdraw from places that don't fit with out agenda going forward...after all, just like out enemies aren't spilling out of wooden Sloops and Corvettes to come ashore, we have ICBMs and long range deployment capabilities that our current global occupation plan doesn't really take into account.

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Ron Paul isn't an

eokpar02
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Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 2:07am

Ron Paul isn't an isolationist, he is just against foreign intervention.

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eokpar02 wrote: Ron Paul

cphbravo96
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(Senior Neanderthal, 4,426
 
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  on 6/10/11 at 7:47am
eokpar02:

Ron Paul isn't an isolationist, he is just against foreign intervention.

You are right. I misspoke. He is far from the actually book/Wikipedia definition. My point was more that people view him as one...at least when it comes to military policy, not so much forgein trade and the like.

Regards

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- Ronald Reagan

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cphbravo96 wrote: I haven't

awm55
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(Senior Gorilla, 937
 
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  on 6/10/11 at 10:15am
cphbravo96:

I haven't watch the Cain interview yet because I'm stuck in the office late, but I was certainly worried about O'Reilly giving it to him. Unfortunately, one of his greatest attributes (not being a politician) will likely be his downfall. He seems like he could be a good leader and seems to have a ton of potential but he just doesn't seem as up-to-speed as he needs to be about foreign affairs. Also the comment about having the right plan before Obama messed things up is far too accurate...you can't say I knew what to do a year ago but it won't work anymore...you have to have a new plan that will work. Obviously it is extremely early and he has time to learn about all these things but I have my reservations about him. I think he would do well serving the Republican party in politics but I am being to withdraw my support for his presidential nomination. I'm being to think he doesn't have what it takes.

As far as Republicans not being able to win this election...you people are out of your fucking minds. Look at all of the recent polls. Among voters Obama is polling horribly and my honest thought is the economy is not getting any better between now and the voting booth. His largest base, blacks, statistically don't come out and vote in mid term elections...so he will lose a ton of support right there. Factor in the students that are now well aware of what Obama didn't bring to the table and you have another large base of support gone.

This will be a nasty election. Obama has nothing of substance to run on so he will have to either revert back to the Bush blame game, personally attack his opponent or a combination of both.

The Republicans can win this election if they man up and have the balls to call Obama out on all of his failed policies (Obamacare, the budget, the debt, the economy as a whole), his failed promises (GITMO, transparency, among others) and his lack of vision (energy). There are obviously countless more. Bottom line is that Obama over promised and severely under delivered.

Regards

What? Obama is not polling horribly at all, and lets face it the Repub have no candidate that comes close to him now except perhaps Romney who isn't all that bad. Every other potential candidate is either a fundamentalist christian who's specialty is being vehemently against abortion and gay marriage (Santorum), a joke (Newt), or completely crazy (Bachmann, Palin, etc).

And to say that black people are Obama' largest voting base is rediculous.

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UFOinsider wrote: Nobama88

Virginia Tech 4ever
     EN
 
 
(King Kong, 1,959
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 10:32am
UFOinsider:
Nobama88:

I would like to see Christie, but obviously he will not run.

My money is on him keeping his nose clean [tough in Jersey] and then running in 2016. Christie as pres = pure awesome. All talk of a GOP victory in 2012 is delusional, sorry.

Umm, this is incorrect. Obama may very well win, but when Obama is losing 49-46 to Romney among registered voters (not even likely voters, which swings more Republican) and when unknowns like Pawlenty are getting 41% of the vote then you've got serious problems. Obama's biggest problem is the electoral college--many Bush Red states that flipped to Obama are certain to turn back--Florida, Virginia, and even Ohio. Then add in the Census reapportionment and Obama is already down something like 20 electoral votes.

If you think Obama's victory is a foregone conclusion then you really haven't been following the numbers.

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It is definitely possible for

Cardinal
    
 
(Orangutan, 320
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 10:43am

It is definitely possible for Obama to go down in 2012. A new poll actually showed Mitt statistically tied with Obama (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/165043-poll-romney-lead...)

It all comes down to the unemployment number and the price of a gallon of gasoline. Obama will win in a landslide if these numbers fall and he declares victory on the economy.

If the economy is still in the shitter independents, who sided heavily with the Dems in 2008, will leave Obama. This is of course provided the GOP doesn't blow any chance they have by nominating Palin.

I also think that putting Rubio in the VP slot and using him at every stop on the campaign trail would do wonders for the GOP's standing amongst Latio voters who currently lean Dem.

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awm55

happypantsmcgee
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(Almost Human, 9,303
 
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  on 6/10/11 at 10:53am
awm55:

...rediculous.

Way to spell champ

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Look, George H.W. Bush and

Virginia Tech 4ever
     EN
 
 
(King Kong, 1,959
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 11:03am

Look, George H.W. Bush and Carter both lost re-election with better economies than what Obama will be running on (most likely). Why would anyone with any kind of political sense declare Obama the victor in 2012 without so much as even critically thinking through the process? Look at state polls right now--Ohio, Florida, Virginia, Nevada, New Hampshire, etc. and tell me exactly how Obama plans on winning 270 electoral votes, especially after the 2010 Census.

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I like Mitch Daniels.

LLcoolJ
    
 
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  on 6/10/11 at 11:10am

I like Mitch Daniels.

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awm55 wrote: What? Obama is

cphbravo96
     PE
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,426
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 11:46am
awm55:

What? Obama is not polling horribly at all, and lets face it the Repub have no candidate that comes close to him now except perhaps Romney who isn't all that bad. Every other potential candidate is either a fundamentalist christian who's specialty is being vehemently against abortion and gay marriage (Santorum), a joke (Newt), or completely crazy (Bachmann, Palin, etc).

Back to life...back to reality...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administra...

I'm not sure what you consider "not polling horribly" but it is plain to see that Obama is tanking in just about every poll listed. His approval rating is down, his disapproval rating is up. Nearly 70% of voting Americans believe the country is heading in the wrong direction. Oh yeah, sounds like B.O. has this one locked up, lol.

awm55:

And to say that black people are Obama' largest voting base is rediculous.

"Largest base" was probably poor phrasing on my part. My intention was to imply that large swaths of people who voted for him in 2008 won't be seen in 2012...this includes blacks, which he carried 96% of the vote and young white kids, which I assume implies in college or shortly out of college.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15297.html

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- Ronald Reagan

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Virginia Tech 4ever wrote: If

cphbravo96
     PE
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,426
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 11:51am
Virginia Tech 4ever:

If you think Obama's victory is a foregone conclusion then you really haven't been following the numbers.

This is the very reason I don't typically debate this topic with those I feel are likely to vote for Obama. I would much rather let them think that B.O. has this thing in the bad already, which leaves them far more likely to stay at home and further assist in getting this country headed in the right direction. That is just fine with me.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

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Cain will be a great VP

veritas14
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(Gorilla, 673
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 12:00pm

Cain will be a great VP choice. Folksy AND competent. Unlike Clueless Joe Biden.

No president has sought re-election with economic/un-employment numbers like BO.

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If people would stop beating

TheKing
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(Neanderthal, 3,033
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 12:06pm

If people would stop beating off to Bain Capital and really take a look at Romney's political positions, they'd see that he lacks integrity. I generally hate the term "flip flop" because I think it's important to have nuanced positions and be willing to change your mind on positions when presented compelling evidence. But, the level of pandering Romney has done to attract "the base" is absurd.

--Romney used to be for a woman's right to choose, now he's against it

--Romney instituted what is essentially a state version of Obama's healthcare reform in Massachusetts, and is now against it

--Romney, a Mormon, at a debate in the 2008 race, claimed that he believes that the Bible is the word of God. When Mormon's don't even user the traditional Christian Bible.

--He has flip flopped on gun control

--He flip flopped on the war in Iraq.

This is a guy who was a Rockefeller Republican until it came time to run for President. How can you respect someone who doesn't stand by their principles and panders to such a degree? It's a joke, pure and simple.

"But...but...he did LBOs!"

Get this plastic fraud out of my Presidential race!

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Rick Perry- Governor of the

veritas14
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(Gorilla, 673
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 12:11pm

Rick Perry- Governor of the country's best economy: Texas.

Texas leads the jobs recovery, growing population, many corporate HQs relocating there.
Cut property/biz taxes.
Pushed through tort reform.
Local control of infrastructure resources, especially roads.
Strongest private property rights in the country.

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I dont like Romney on many

Nobama88
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Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 12:28pm

I dont like Romney on many issues. He would not be my first choice if I was able to select a front runner. I do believe he is strong on the economy, which we are in desperate need of right now. He also has by far the strongest chance to win of those who are in the race as of now. I like Ron Paul, and was a fan for awhile, but the reality is he will never win and I think he is too extreme on some issues.

I believe our best option for the country and at a true shot of winning against Obama is Christie. He isnt running so we need to take who we can.

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Extremism in defense of

veritas14
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  on 6/10/11 at 12:32pm

Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.

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veritas14 wrote: Rick Perry-

awm55
     ST
 
(Senior Gorilla, 937
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 12:59pm
veritas14:

Rick Perry- Governor of the country's best economy: Texas.

Texas leads the jobs recovery, growing population, many corporate HQs relocating there.
Cut property/biz taxes.
Pushed through tort reform.
Local control of infrastructure resources, especially roads.
Strongest private property rights in the country.

Texas also ranks dead last or close to dead last in education, healthcare, obesity, etc etc.

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awm55 wrote: veritas14

cphbravo96
     PE
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,426
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 1:02pm
awm55:
veritas14:

Rick Perry- Governor of the country's best economy: Texas.

Texas leads the jobs recovery, growing population, many corporate HQs relocating there.
Cut property/biz taxes.
Pushed through tort reform.
Local control of infrastructure resources, especially roads.
Strongest private property rights in the country.

Texas also ranks dead last or close to dead last in education, healthcare, obesity, etc etc.

Sounds like they are probably having a blast, lol.

Regards

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- Ronald Reagan

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awm55 wrote: cphbravo96

txjustin
     O
 
(Neanderthal, 2,257
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 1:05pm
awm55:
cphbravo96:

I haven't watch the Cain interview yet because I'm stuck in the office late, but I was certainly worried about O'Reilly giving it to him. Unfortunately, one of his greatest attributes (not being a politician) will likely be his downfall. He seems like he could be a good leader and seems to have a ton of potential but he just doesn't seem as up-to-speed as he needs to be about foreign affairs. Also the comment about having the right plan before Obama messed things up is far too accurate...you can't say I knew what to do a year ago but it won't work anymore...you have to have a new plan that will work. Obviously it is extremely early and he has time to learn about all these things but I have my reservations about him. I think he would do well serving the Republican party in politics but I am being to withdraw my support for his presidential nomination. I'm being to think he doesn't have what it takes.

As far as Republicans not being able to win this election...you people are out of your fucking minds. Look at all of the recent polls. Among voters Obama is polling horribly and my honest thought is the economy is not getting any better between now and the voting booth. His largest base, blacks, statistically don't come out and vote in mid term elections...so he will lose a ton of support right there. Factor in the students that are now well aware of what Obama didn't bring to the table and you have another large base of support gone.

This will be a nasty election. Obama has nothing of substance to run on so he will have to either revert back to the Bush blame game, personally attack his opponent or a combination of both.

The Republicans can win this election if they man up and have the balls to call Obama out on all of his failed policies (Obamacare, the budget, the debt, the economy as a whole), his failed promises (GITMO, transparency, among others) and his lack of vision (energy). There are obviously countless more. Bottom line is that Obama over promised and severely under delivered.

Regards

What? Obama is not polling horribly at all, and lets face it the Repub have no candidate that comes close to him now except perhaps Romney who isn't all that bad. Every other potential candidate is either a fundamentalist christian who's specialty is being vehemently against abortion and gay marriage (Santorum), a joke (Newt), or completely crazy (Bachmann, Palin, etc).

And to say that black people are Obama' largest voting base is rediculous.

I'm fairly certain Obama will lose the independents.

What's rediculous is it's ridiculous. haha, had to pull one of your liberal tricks

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awm55 wrote: veritas14

veritas14
     ST
 
(Gorilla, 673
 
Points)
  on 6/10/11 at 1:10pm
awm55:
veritas14:

Rick Perry- Governor of the country's best economy: Texas.

Texas leads the jobs recovery, growing population, many corporate HQs relocating there.
Cut property/biz taxes.
Pushed through tort reform.
Local control of infrastructure resources, especially roads.
Strongest private property rights in the country.

Texas also ranks dead last or close to dead last in education, healthcare, obesity, etc etc.

Obesity is NOT a government matter.

Education: heavy Latino immigrant population does stress the primary schools. But the TX state university system is excellent.

Most of this is irrelevant. Public services matter less when you have the #2 cheapest cost of living and a booming economy. Texans can pay straight cash for a lot of things.

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awm55 wrote: veritas14

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awm55:
veritas14:

Rick Perry- Governor of the country's best economy: Texas.

Texas leads the jobs recovery, growing population, many corporate HQs relocating there.
Cut property/biz taxes.
Pushed through tort reform.
Local control of infrastructure resources, especially roads.
Strongest private property rights in the country.

Texas also ranks dead last or close to dead last in education, healthcare, obesity, etc etc.

You just keep on doing what "the man" tells you and be a good boy. We'll handle business down here.

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txjustin wrote: awm55

awm55
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txjustin:
awm55:
veritas14:

Rick Perry- Governor of the country's best economy: Texas.

Texas leads the jobs recovery, growing population, many corporate HQs relocating there.
Cut property/biz taxes.
Pushed through tort reform.
Local control of infrastructure resources, especially roads.
Strongest private property rights in the country.

Texas also ranks dead last or close to dead last in education, healthcare, obesity, etc etc.

You just keep on doing what "the man" tells you and be a good boy. We'll handle business down here.

Please just secede already.

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txjustin wrote: awm55

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txjustin:
awm55:
cphbravo96:

I haven't watch the Cain interview yet because I'm stuck in the office late, but I was certainly worried about O'Reilly giving it to him. Unfortunately, one of his greatest attributes (not being a politician) will likely be his downfall. He seems like he could be a good leader and seems to have a ton of potential but he just doesn't seem as up-to-speed as he needs to be about foreign affairs. Also the comment about having the right plan before Obama messed things up is far too accurate...you can't say I knew what to do a year ago but it won't work anymore...you have to have a new plan that will work. Obviously it is extremely early and he has time to learn about all these things but I have my reservations about him. I think he would do well serving the Republican party in politics but I am being to withdraw my support for his presidential nomination. I'm being to think he doesn't have what it takes.

As far as Republicans not being able to win this election...you people are out of your fucking minds. Look at all of the recent polls. Among voters Obama is polling horribly and my honest thought is the economy is not getting any better between now and the voting booth. His largest base, blacks, statistically don't come out and vote in mid term elections...so he will lose a ton of support right there. Factor in the students that are now well aware of what Obama didn't bring to the table and you have another large base of support gone.

This will be a nasty election. Obama has nothing of substance to run on so he will have to either revert back to the Bush blame game, personally attack his opponent or a combination of both.

The Republicans can win this election if they man up and have the balls to call Obama out on all of his failed policies (Obamacare, the budget, the debt, the economy as a whole), his failed promises (GITMO, transparency, among others) and his lack of vision (energy). There are obviously countless more. Bottom line is that Obama over promised and severely under delivered.

Regards

What? Obama is not polling horribly at all, and lets face it the Repub have no candidate that comes close to him now except perhaps Romney who isn't all that bad. Every other potential candidate is either a fundamentalist christian who's specialty is being vehemently against abortion and gay marriage (Santorum), a joke (Newt), or completely crazy (Bachmann, Palin, etc).

And to say that black people are Obama' largest voting base is rediculous.

I'm fairly certain Obama will lose the independents.

What's rediculous is it's ridiculous. haha, had to pull one of your liberal tricks

Correcting spelling is a liberal trick? How left wing of you.

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awm55 wrote: txjustin

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awm55:
txjustin:
awm55:
veritas14:

Rick Perry- Governor of the country's best economy: Texas.

Texas leads the jobs recovery, growing population, many corporate HQs relocating there.
Cut property/biz taxes.
Pushed through tort reform.
Local control of infrastructure resources, especially roads.
Strongest private property rights in the country.

Texas also ranks dead last or close to dead last in education, healthcare, obesity, etc etc.

You just keep on doing what "the man" tells you and be a good boy. We'll handle business down here.

Please just secede already.

I'm not one of those "seceders". I love my state, but love my country more.

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awm55 wrote: txjustin

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awm55:
txjustin:
awm55:
cphbravo96:

I haven't watch the Cain interview yet because I'm stuck in the office late, but I was certainly worried about O'Reilly giving it to him. Unfortunately, one of his greatest attributes (not being a politician) will likely be his downfall. He seems like he could be a good leader and seems to have a ton of potential but he just doesn't seem as up-to-speed as he needs to be about foreign affairs. Also the comment about having the right plan before Obama messed things up is far too accurate...you can't say I knew what to do a year ago but it won't work anymore...you have to have a new plan that will work. Obviously it is extremely early and he has time to learn about all these things but I have my reservations about him. I think he would do well serving the Republican party in politics but I am being to withdraw my support for his presidential nomination. I'm being to think he doesn't have what it takes.

As far as Republicans not being able to win this election...you people are out of your fucking minds. Look at all of the recent polls. Among voters Obama is polling horribly and my honest thought is the economy is not getting any better between now and the voting booth. His largest base, blacks, statistically don't come out and vote in mid term elections...so he will lose a ton of support right there. Factor in the students that are now well aware of what Obama didn't bring to the table and you have another large base of support gone.

This will be a nasty election. Obama has nothing of substance to run on so he will have to either revert back to the Bush blame game, personally attack his opponent or a combination of both.

The Republicans can win this election if they man up and have the balls to call Obama out on all of his failed policies (Obamacare, the budget, the debt, the economy as a whole), his failed promises (GITMO, transparency, among others) and his lack of vision (energy). There are obviously countless more. Bottom line is that Obama over promised and severely under delivered.

Regards

What? Obama is not polling horribly at all, and lets face it the Repub have no candidate that comes close to him now except perhaps Romney who isn't all that bad. Every other potential candidate is either a fundamentalist christian who's specialty is being vehemently against abortion and gay marriage (Santorum), a joke (Newt), or completely crazy (Bachmann, Palin, etc).

And to say that black people are Obama' largest voting base is rediculous.

I'm fairly certain Obama will lose the independents.

What's rediculous is it's ridiculous. haha, had to pull one of your liberal tricks

Correcting spelling is a liberal trick? How left wing of you.

We all know that proper spelling isn't a liberal trick. It's the pointing out of said error instead of debating the topic.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

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cphbravo96 wrote: awm55

txjustin
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cphbravo96:
awm55:
txjustin:
awm55:
cphbravo96:

I haven't watch the Cain interview yet because I'm stuck in the office late, but I was certainly worried about O'Reilly giving it to him. Unfortunately, one of his greatest attributes (not being a politician) will likely be his downfall. He seems like he could be a good leader and seems to have a ton of potential but he just doesn't seem as up-to-speed as he needs to be about foreign affairs. Also the comment about having the right plan before Obama messed things up is far too accurate...you can't say I knew what to do a year ago but it won't work anymore...you have to have a new plan that will work. Obviously it is extremely early and he has time to learn about all these things but I have my reservations about him. I think he would do well serving the Republican party in politics but I am being to withdraw my support for his presidential nomination. I'm being to think he doesn't have what it takes.

As far as Republicans not being able to win this election...you people are out of your fucking minds. Look at all of the recent polls. Among voters Obama is polling horribly and my honest thought is the economy is not getting any better between now and the voting booth. His largest base, blacks, statistically don't come out and vote in mid term elections...so he will lose a ton of support right there. Factor in the students that are now well aware of what Obama didn't bring to the table and you have another large base of support gone.

This will be a nasty election. Obama has nothing of substance to run on so he will have to either revert back to the Bush blame game, personally attack his opponent or a combination of both.

The Republicans can win this election if they man up and have the balls to call Obama out on all of his failed policies (Obamacare, the budget, the debt, the economy as a whole), his failed promises (GITMO, transparency, among others) and his lack of vision (energy). There are obviously countless more. Bottom line is that Obama over promised and severely under delivered.

Regards

What? Obama is not polling horribly at all, and lets face it the Repub have no candidate that comes close to him now except perhaps Romney who isn't all that bad. Every other potential candidate is either a fundamentalist christian who's specialty is being vehemently against abortion and gay marriage (Santorum), a joke (Newt), or completely crazy (Bachmann, Palin, etc).

And to say that black people are Obama' largest voting base is rediculous.

I'm fairly certain Obama will lose the independents.

What's rediculous is it's ridiculous. haha, had to pull one of your liberal tricks

Correcting spelling is a liberal trick? How left wing of you.

We all know that proper spelling isn't a liberal trick. It's the pointing out of said error instead of debating the topic.

Regards

Thank you for emphasizing my point my conservative friend.

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Anytime! Regards

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Anytime!

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

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I like Hernan but don't agree

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I like Hernan but don't agree with him on keeping our forces in Afghanistan

From USA's perspective what is most important protectorate area in the world? Is it the North/South Korean border, the Afghan/Pakistan border, the Israel/Palatine border, the Iran/Iraqi border, the Japan/China border? and etc....etc...?

If we brought all our defense forces home and stretched them out along our southern border they would stand shoulder to shoulder for two thousand miles. This is the length of the Mexico/USA border. If we used one fifth of our defense forces to protect the Mexico/USA border, they would form a defense line every 20 feet for 200 hundred miles. That means that our most important protectorate area will be secure. We could then retire 4/5 th of our defense forces and use the moneys saved to eliminate the USA debt. Remember the cost of defense is our single most expensive expenditure. It is even greater than congressional graft and corruption.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news

awm55
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-10/pawlenty-to-give-richest-a-1-4-...

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awm55

txjustin
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awm55:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-10/pawlenty-to-give-richest-a-1-4-million-tax-cut.html

How about some of your loyal voter base pay some taxes? You know...the bottom 50% who don't pay any taxes now.

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txjustin wrote: awm55

awm55
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txjustin:
awm55:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-10/pawlenty-to-give-richest-a-1-4-million-tax-cut.html

How about some of your loyal voter base pay some taxes? You know...the bottom 50% who don't pay any taxes now.

Would that perhaps be due to the fact that the US has the highest income disparity in the developed world and that middle class incomes have not budged in almost a generation?

Also, I am not sure you understand where my political allegiance falls. I am pretty moderate by most measures, but these forums are by and large rabidly right wing to the point where it is almost comical. I think me supporting a ticket resembling something like Bloomberg/Scarborough says more about my poltical allegiance than thinking its bat shit crazy to give more tax cuts to the wealthy when we are in the middle of a debt crisis.

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I just watched the O'Reilly

Military_PE_Guy
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I just watched the O'Reilly interview. It was unfair. He bullied him, and wouldn't let him answer. On top of that, If he asked those same questions to any other candidate or the president, none of them would have a good answer.

It pays to be nice to the people you meet on the way up, for they are the same people you meet on the way down.
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O'Reilly is a fucking joke.

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O'Reilly is a fucking joke. When he turns off someone's microphone so he can speak I want to punch him in the face.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

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I'm on the 2012 Cain Train

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I'm on the 2012 Cain Train Muthafu*ka

It pays to be nice to the people you meet on the way up, for they are the same people you meet on the way down.
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Military_PE_Guy wrote: ...the

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Military_PE_Guy:

...the O'Reilly interview. It was unfair. He bullied him, and wouldn't let him answer. On top of that, If he asked those same questions to any other candidate or the president, none of them would have a good answer.

It is pretty common for people who are new to politics to look at him and think, "I don't care what you're selling, I don't fucking like you."

At the end of the day, all of those guys say what Roger Ailes tells them to. And at the end of the day, Roger Ailes does what makes Rupert Murdoch money......priority #1 is money, with the GOP and then America as [very distant] 2nd and 3rd priorities.

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0904/chill-out...

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veritas14 wrote: Cain will be

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veritas14:

Cain will be a great VP choice. Folksy AND competent. Unlike Clueless Joe Biden.

No president has sought re-election with economic/un-employment numbers like BO.

Did you listen to Cain's interview with O'Reilly? The man sounded dumb as nails. His solution to Iran getting nukes was making American energy independent because he thinks Iran won't be able to get nukes this year if we become energy independent in 10 years. He also is fairly clueless about Afghanistan.

Is this man serious? Cain may be folksy, but definitely isn't anymore competent than a ham sandwich.

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment.
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