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sleepyguyb's picture
by sleepyguyb     
 
(Gorilla, 598
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 10:35pm

Official ibankingoasis belief in God poll. Any religion with a God accepted. I'll start.

Don't.

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potentate88's picture

Do.

potentate88     
 
(Chimp, 9
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 10:44pm

Do.

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BABanker's picture

Nope

BABanker      IB
 
(Senior Orangutan, 415
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 10:48pm

Atheist

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StreetLuck's picture

Do.

StreetLuck      IB
 
(Senior Gorilla, 775
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 10:49pm

Do.

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iamshortgod's picture

Well I'll let my name speak

iamshortgod     
 
(Monkey, 37
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 10:52pm

Well I'll let my name speak for itself.

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uppereastside's picture

...

uppereastside     
 
(Senior Baboon, 246
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 10:56pm

Do

I would strongly recommend reading C.S. Lewis' Mere Christianity for those of you that are skeptical.

It has helped change the way I look at many things...

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funnyplatoon's picture

Affirmative here. Atheists

funnyplatoon      IB
 
(Senior Monkey, 97
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 11:02pm

Affirmative here. Atheists will have a rude awakening one day.

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dealmaven123's picture

True believer.

dealmaven123     
 
(Senior Monkey, 72
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 11:09pm

True believer.

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StreetLuck's picture

Okay guys, let's stick to

StreetLuck      IB
 
(Senior Gorilla, 775
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 11:09pm

Okay guys, let's stick to the topic and try not to get personal and respect the views of others. I really don't want to see another long drawn-out thread filled with flames.

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Point well taken. Good

funnyplatoon      IB
 
(Senior Monkey, 97
 
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  on 4/9/07 at 11:13pm

Point well taken. Good reminder.

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Seanc's picture

I truly believe I am God.

Seanc     
 
(King Kong, 1,164
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 11:15pm

I truly believe I am God. Not even kidding here.

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funnyplatoon's picture

For those that answered yes,

funnyplatoon      IB
 
(Senior Monkey, 97
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 11:17pm

For those that answered yes, how have you been able to maintain your faith amidst all the pressures?

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carl87's picture

I truly Believe in GOD. GOD

carl87     
 
(Senior Chimp, 23
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 11:20pm

I truly Believe in GOD.
GOD exists,i have no doubt about that.Nothing in our lifes happens randomly without a reason.everything has a reason behind.and GOD is the guy :) that makes this whole puzzle called "our life"

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orbithal's picture

Re: I truly Believe in GOD.

orbithal     
 
(Baboon, 130
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 11:24pm
carl87:

I truly Believe in GOD.
GOD exists,i have no doubt about that.Nothing in our lifes happens randomly without a reason.everything has a reason behind.and GOD is the guy :) that makes this whole puzzle called "our life"

Not to disagree with your your views or say that they are right or wrong, but the flip side of that argument (i.e. all the bad, horrible things that happen to ppl every day) is the reason why I don't.

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guyjer's picture

If your Atheist what do you

guyjer     
 
(Senior Baboon, 205
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 11:25pm

If your Atheist what do you look forward to in the long run?

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Re: If your Atheist what do you

orbithal     
 
(Baboon, 130
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 11:28pm
guyjer:

If your Atheist what do you look forward to in the long run?

Having a good life, and trying to make the most of it for me and the people around me. I personally think it makes a better person out of me, because when I do something good I do out of a desire to be a better person, rather than because of a fear of hell.

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Vector1990's picture

I believe in God but get a

Vector1990     
 
(Senior Monkey, 91
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 11:43pm

I believe in God but get a little skeptical sometimes. I think of the little kids that are dying of diseases, poverty and starvation in third-world countries and ask myself "Is God willing to help these people but not able or is he able to help these people but not willing or is he neither willing nor able to help these people, in which case, why do we call him 'God'" People like to chant the mantra, "Everything happens for a reason" but a reason behind a suffering of such magnitude that these innocent kids are confronted with seems illogical. Maybe somebody could someday justify such inhumane acts(but then again, God isn't human).

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ivybanker's picture

Was once slightly agnostic,

ivybanker      IB
 
(Baboon, 142
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 11:54pm

Was once slightly agnostic, now very much a believer.

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Nobody's picture

Belief

Nobody     
 
(Chimp, 8
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 11:57pm

Absolutely.

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mp2437's picture

Re: I truly Believe in GOD.

mp2437     
 
(Baboon, 110
 
Points)
  on 4/9/07 at 11:59pm
carl87:

I truly Believe in GOD.
GOD exists,i have no doubt about that.Nothing in our lifes happens randomly without a reason.everything has a reason behind.and GOD is the guy :) that makes this whole puzzle called "our life"

No offense, but there's no way you can say you have "no doubt" about it. If so, what proof could you offer. Personally, I've thought about it both ways (good things happen for a reason vs. all the bas things that happen), and I believe in God, but on what grounds, I'm not sure. You could not explain the unexplainable, but you cannot prove much either. Oh well, my 2 cents.

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yphrums's picture

I just sacrificed to Phoebus

yphrums      IB
 
(Senior Chimp, 25
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 12:01am

I just sacrificed to Phoebus Apollo.
Those who do not worship all the Olympian Gods and Goddesses are in for a rude awakening (Tartarus) one day.

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sleepyguyb's picture

Do: 10 Dont: 3. Lets keep

sleepyguyb     
 
(Gorilla, 598
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 12:35am

Do: 10
Dont: 3.
Lets keep them coming. Remember to write "Do" or "Dont" at the top. It will make keeping a tally easier.

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olemungu's picture

DO

olemungu     
 
(Senior Chimp, 16
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 12:37am

do

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uppereastside's picture

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uppereastside     
 
(Senior Baboon, 246
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 12:44am

People have mentioned suffering, and it is one of the most common obstacles for many people.

Again at the risk of sounding like a dork(even though I don't care if I do), "Mere Christianity" has rocked my world. It touches on Suffering, Morality, "right and wrong as a clue to the meaning of the universe", faith, cost of faith, what Christians believe, Christian behavior etc..

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iamshortgod's picture

hmm

iamshortgod     
 
(Monkey, 37
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 12:52am

hmm

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guyjer's picture

I always love asking this to

guyjer     
 
(Senior Baboon, 205
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 1:00am

I always love asking this to my fundamentalist friends, If God knows the future - and what is going to happen has already been decided - do you think that praying will "Change God's Mind" persuading him to grant you a favor?

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outlier's picture

another no

outlier     
 
(Monkey, 37
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 1:11am

no

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aachimp's picture

nope, makes my parents sad.

aachimp      ST
 
(Gorilla, 697
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 1:35am

nope, makes my parents sad.

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Cest's picture

yes - something along the

Cest      O
 
(Baboon, 109
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 2:02am

yes - something along the lines of intelligent design but not quite

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BABanker's picture

Re: If your Atheist what do you

BABanker      IB
 
(Senior Orangutan, 415
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 9:10am
guyjer:

If your Atheist what do you look forward to in the long run?

I don't look forward to anything in the long run. I really can't give you a good reason for why we all shouldn't kill ourselves other than maybe we are afraid to die or rather life just is like it or not.

You hit on the main reason why I don't believe in god, though. It is clearly a comfort to man to believe in some purpose. The truth is usually uncomfortable. I refuse to believe just to make me feel better and sleep at night.

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aadpepsi's picture

Do

aadpepsi     
 
 
(King Kong, 1,218
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 11:28am

Absolutely.

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holymonkey's picture

Nuh uh. In the really long

holymonkey      O
 
(Gorilla, 678
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 11:35am

Nuh uh.

In the really long run, we all die.

Anyway I'm atheist because I am my own keeper, not a deity of any kind. I got into college because I worked hard to get in, not because some deity put my name on the roster.

And besides, how am I supposed to believe in something that's scientifically impossible. And my view of christianity is jaded by people that run places like Jesus Camp. YouTube it. It's scary. Looks like some sort of christian fundamentalist jihad.

"We are lawyers! We sue people! Occasionally, we get aggressive and garnish wages, but WE DO NOT ABDUCT!" -Boston Legal-

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fraser24gt's picture

Don't

fraser24gt      CF
 
(Senior Baboon, 237
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 12:46pm

When I was younger I went back and forth with this. But really, people give God way to much credit for everything in their lives (someone I know once said it was because of "Him" that they did well on a Calc test...give me a break). As far as what I look forward to, just living life as best I can and being happy. Do I really need to have a book or another person who claims to be an expert of said book help me to achieve that? I don't think so. But, to each his own. If someone needs that feeling of not being alone in order to be happy, then that's what they need to be happy.

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Re: Don't

BABanker      IB
 
(Senior Orangutan, 415
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 1:42pm
fraser24gt:

When I was younger I went back and forth with this. But really, people give God way to much credit for everything in their lives (someone I know once said it was because of "Him" that they did well on a Calc test...give me a break). As far as what I look forward to, just living life as best I can and being happy. Do I really need to have a book or another person who claims to be an expert of said book help me to achieve that? I don't think so. But, to each his own. If someone needs that feeling of not being alone in order to be happy, then that's what they need to be happy.

Amen.

Crap! As an atheist, what am I supposed to say?

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crazybanana's picture

Do, for sure.

crazybanana      IB
 
(Senior Chimp, 26
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 3:16pm

Do, for sure.

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Vector1990's picture

For posters that said they

Vector1990     
 
(Senior Monkey, 91
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 3:17pm

For posters that said they believe in God, I have a couple of questions: First, we all believe that humans came into existence through God's creation but how did God himself come into existence? Second, who actually compiled all the books in the bible into one book?

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fraser24gt's picture

Some religious people really

fraser24gt      CF
 
(Senior Baboon, 237
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 3:20pm

Some religious people really bother me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8Aq00yJSxo

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uppereastside's picture

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uppereastside     
 
(Senior Baboon, 246
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 4:28pm

I am always astonished that people let a certain group of Christians actions affect their views.

It comes down to this for me: Christ made some very bold and radical statements here on earth. As C.S. Lewis said, "Jesus was either a Liar, Lord, or a Lunatic."

If he is Lord, there are MAJOR implications. If what he said REALLY is Truth, then how can you let how other people act prevent you from that Truth? Not all people that claim things actually live obedient lives.

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...

BrokenIncome     
 
(Senior Baboon, 210
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 4:28pm

...

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fraser24gt's picture

Re: ...

fraser24gt      CF
 
(Senior Baboon, 237
 
Points)
  on 4/10/07 at 4:59pm
uppereastside:

Not all people that claim things actually live obedient lives.

In my experience, that is a major understatement. I have found religious people in general (some groups definitely more than others) to be among the most hypocritical. I obviously haven't let this observation affect any personal views, but I just get irritated by the fact that others feel they can preach to me when I feel I have my life more in order than they do, and in some cases, probably have a better/clearer moral compass. That is my biggest hang-up with religion, is the constant need to "spread the gospel/Word", "save" people, etc. Forcing religion down peoples throats is not to my knowledge something that entails the principles set forth by God/Jesus/Yahweh/Allah/Buddha/FSM/Etc.

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guyjer's picture

You do not have to believe

guyjer     
 
(Senior Baboon, 205
 
Points)
  on 4/11/07 at 2:08am

You do not have to believe in Christianity but I find it refreshing to have a spiritual life. I discourage fundamentalism because it discourages the evolution of religion. If an idea cannot change then it cannot adapt to the times and that leads to trouble.

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CompBanker's picture

Strong Don't ... What I've

CompBanker      PE
 
 
(Almost Human, 7,793
 
Points)
  on 4/11/07 at 10:48am

Strong Don't ...

What I've never understood is: If two different religions claim that non-believers are going to hell (and you can't follow more than one religion), either someone (or both) is lying or we're all going to hell anyways. I have an uncle who is a priest, a grandmother that is a minister, and other religious ties. I've had a lot of exposure to religion but I just don't buy it.

PS: I don't mind if others practice at all, as long as it doesn't come to the detriment of those that don't agree with them.

CompBanker

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holymonkey's picture

You can be spritual without

holymonkey      O
 
(Gorilla, 678
 
Points)
  on 4/12/07 at 3:06am

You can be spritual without being religious. You can be moral without being religious. Notice how enron's CEO and Ken Lay were both male WASPs.

"We are lawyers! We sue people! Occasionally, we get aggressive and garnish wages, but WE DO NOT ABDUCT!" -Boston Legal-

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john doe's picture

Believe in God.

john doe     
 
(Monkey, 37
 
Points)
  on 4/14/07 at 7:55am

Believe in God.

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BSD123's picture

Don't

BSD123      CF
 
(Senior Orangutan, 402
 
Points)
  on 4/14/07 at 2:32pm

I'm an orthodox athiest

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Either you sling crack rock or you got a wicked jump shot

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goldstandard's picture

do

goldstandard      IB
 
(Senior Chimp, 16
 
Points)
  on 4/14/07 at 10:52pm

Challenge: We should each identify what our definition of God/'the gods' is.

I have a hunch that a good section of the atheists became that way after observing the behavior and mentality of those with a poor definition.

My definition: Universal organizing principle(s). Although randomness as a basis for reality may be appealing to some. I believe in a harmonious underlying structure, it tends to promote a harmonious underlying structure in myself.

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goldstandard's picture

addendum

goldstandard      IB
 
(Senior Chimp, 16
 
Points)
  on 4/14/07 at 10:58pm

those who do not resonate with that structure, tend to find themselves in dire straits(hell/tartarus/gehenna) at some point or another.
Take it from me...

- Ex-atheist

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How is a guy driving down

fraser24gt      CF
 
(Senior Baboon, 237
 
Points)
  on 4/15/07 at 2:28am

How is a guy driving down the freeway getting killed by a semi-truck tire that came loose and crossed over the divider wall into the opposing lane of traffic part of a "harmonious underlying structure"? What about the 6 year old leukemia patients? Maybe I missed the gist of your philosophical outlook, but I don't see how such things tie together the universe.

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afftar's picture

Unsure

afftar     
 
(Monkey, 41
 
Points)
  on 4/15/07 at 5:48am

First, I don't believe in the things that cannot be proved, but I don't deny the possiblity of such proof arising later. Basically, I'm an agnostic, lately leaning towards atheism.

Second, even if I were to believe, I certainly wouldn't join any of the current followings. Seriously, how can you read Bible/Torah/Koran without ridiculing it? The stuff they talk about are basically fairytales. And in any case, I feel that it's important for me to figure out my own position rather than jump on the bandwagon with other believers in the standardized deities, rituals, and customs. Sitting through a religious ceremony is by far the last thing I'd spend my time on.

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jotah's picture

Don't

jotah      ST
 
(Senior Baboon, 193
 
Points)
  on 4/16/07 at 1:27am

Atheist

Too much bad stuff in the world to think there is. I think it's all a ploy to control the masses. There is too much historical context and evidence of corruption, deception, and fraud in the church for me to believe otherwise.

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Bucs47's picture

Do

Bucs47     
 
(Senior Monkey, 73
 
Points)
  on 4/16/07 at 4:27pm

Do

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Fellow Primates, We are looking for 1-2 students on each campus to help WSO in its sales efforts to student clubs/career centers, and overall promotion at your school both online and on the ground. Below is a description of the position and benefits...thanks in advance for your help! <a...
WSO Campus Representative Program
Just got back from a quick lunch break, first one i've had in 6 months not at the desk. I'm a 25yro quant trader/geek at a well known hedge fund in NYC and I pull in around $250k-$500k, all in, depending on the year. I was just at a bar downtown and this well known 23yro actress came in...
Just got a famous actresses' number. Would a young trader have any chance with a hot rich actress?
A common thread we see on WSO from time to time is regarding working for banks in their regional offices. As banks are leaning towards more cost cutting and squeezing every dollar they can from their operations,<strong> a popular tactic has been to expand existing business and move...
Consider your BB regional office.
Really pretty girl. 22 yro. Just graduating out of Columbia. Majored in computer science. So, shes really smart too. I'm a 25yro third year analyst at a BB. Date went well. Dinner went really well. We laughing all the time and then I asked her what are the most important things she...
Got back from a date. This is what she said. Is this a red flag?
Broke the news to a few monkeys in the chat room, but I proposed to my long-time girlfriend yesterday and now we're engaged. Never been scared about much of anything in my life, and always had a good idea about how to approach new situations. A bit lost on this one. Anyone (other than...
Just Got Engaged
I'm going to be an organ donor in the next few months (kidney, to my dad). I'm not at all in it for the glory (except for subtly dropping it when i'm picking up a chick at the bar) BUT should I add this experience to my resume? If so, how and where? If its subtle / small / at...
Add "Organ Donor" to my resume?
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