Its a bit childish to use that kind of language we all know you are a bleeding heart liberal. It is just stupid to spew crap like this when this is no different then what Obama does when he goes on CNN or MSNBC. He is going on media outlets that perdominately have similar viewpoints to what he has. Boehner just wanted to get his idea out and see how other conservative icons fell about it.

+1, terrible analogy. That would be like Obama calling Rachel Maddow for advice or permission. Rednecks would choke on their dipspit.

How is that a terrible analogy? Who said he was asking permission? Its a well known fact that Obama will twist any idea into the kicking grandma on the curb and leaving sick people to be kicked out of hospitals when anyone suggests doing any kind of cutting to the big 3 expenses in the fed budget. So it was actually a very smart move by Boehner to get his points out before it gets twisted around.

Boehner completely dominated tonight. Obama does nothing but try and portray life as if the government is Robin Hood, protecting the helpless citizens from the evil rich and business men.

When Boehner said "not going to happen" I started cheering in the gym.

Republicans FINALLY have a ball sack and are willing to play hardball. Bravo.

Obama tried to play the populist card in and out of the negotiations but with the majority of the american people opposed to raising the debt ceiling, the GOP is in the catbird seat on this one. Frankly, Joe Sixpack does not give a shit about CAPM or the US treasurys complex so all this bullshit about supposed financial chaos from a default means nothing to him. He was fed the same line of bullshit during the 2008 plunder of the public treasury to cover the bets of BB prop desks. You can't fool all of the people all of the time.

Fascism ahahhahahahaha

50% of the people pay nothings and receive benefits because the other 50% pay. Democrats are not happy with this and want to milk the people more. That sounds like fascism to me.

Sorry, cut spending. 1/3rd someones hard earned money is good enough. Lay off government workers, shut down government agencies, do more with less.

Let's not pretend for one second that cutting government expenditures is somehow going to make our economy take off. It's just as recessionary as raising taxes, the cutting of which is the main reason we are at this point in the first place.

Quite frankly it's embarassing that you have politicians deferring to guys like Rush. Dude dropped out of Southeast Missouri State. He may control much of our country's public opinion, but anyone who takes him seriously should be ashamed of themselves. Same goes for Hannity (NYU dropout) or Beck (didn't go to college). It's not about being a prestige whore, it's about demanding that guys who are going to pontificate on everything under the sun have at least a modicum of academic credentials. Hannity ranting about Obama's "class warfare" as he targets the top 2% of the country is laughable.

1) Beohner was not deferring to anyone. Rush is a well followed, conservative talk show host and Beohner was getting the message out. Nothing more, nothing less.

2) Who gives a shit if he dropped out? What does college education have to do with anything. Attitudes like that are why Democrats think they can control other people. Why they think they know better.

A college education gives you a narrow intelligence. You are not magically smart. People really need to pull their head out of their ass. It is comical how elitist some people think they are because they have a piece of paper on the wall.

And to think the Dems are tying to reach the middle class.

Democrats are the party of the rich who like to control and the poor who will live on their knees vs being free citizens.

Cutting government employees and spending will release a drag on this country. Every dollar I send to Washington to be wasted is a dollar I cannot invest or spend. If you think the government does anything but suck the life out of things you are horrible mistaken.

Washington is a joke, I will agree with you there, but only one party is making this a class war and trying to increase taxes.

I still do not understand how companies own Washington anymore than individuals. Obama spoke at La Raza the other day and was obviously pandering to them when it comes to immigration. NRA represents my opinions and beliefs and do a good job. I really don't see how companies dominate anything.

I don't know why the president is even talking to La Raza. The US has no issue with Mexicans legally immigrating, just like everyone other country. The problem is La Raza is not an American organization, but an organization that supports allowing illegal immigration.

If a boat load of Italians illegally washed on shore I would be the first kicking them back home. But that is because I am an American and love my home nation. Unfortunately certain immigrant groups don't want to assimilate and luckily they have a President who is more than happy to keep allowing people to ILLEGALLY enter this country.

The mice will play when the cats away.

wow since when does the tea party hang out on WSO? you guys fucking disgust me

Wow, being against illegal immigration is wrong? I didn't realize that the USA was the only nation not allowed to have a border.

I suppose it is fair that everyone else in the world has to go through a formal process to immigrate, but because someone lives within close proximity that excludes them from what everyone else does.

Man, I didn't realize Mexico was superior to all other nations in the fact that they don't have to obey the rules that others follow.

Sorry pal, this is adult time, no 5 year old logic allowed.

So because someone isn't going to miss it, 2% is cool?

If someone has 5 TV's is taking 1 ok?

Sorry, robbing someone because they wont miss the money doesn't fly in my world. The poor don't pay taxes. The poor get plenty of services. The rich and all the rest of us pay plenty. Enough is enough.

We have the highest corporate tax rate. I have 3 10-q's on my floor with companies paying 27-35% taxes.

We need to stop spending. The bleeding heart is killing us.

Glad you see my point on immigration. Too many people go insane when anyone questions peoples "right" to come to the US.

Their counter is always that illegals do the work Americans don't want to, cheaper than American's want.

1) Migrants do the work and they are documented workers which is fine

2) Saying that illegal immigration is good because we can use them as slave labor is disgusting ethics.

looks like we've got a badass here

Looks like we have an irrational and uninformed poster here.

Its both a revenue and expenditure problem. The incredible spending done by Obama over the past few years was astounding, however, we were in the middle of the biggest recession in 90 years, it was entirely justified and Republicans would have done the exact same thing. Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

The hysterical thing about the Tea Party is that the original Boston Tea Party was a protest against taxes levied on the colonies to subsidise the trading of the East India Company. In other words, they were protesting against tax subsidies for big business. When was the last time you saw an anti-corporate subsidy/tax breaks sign at a Tea Party rally? Pretty funny if you think about it....

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fucking bracket creep is what pisses me off the most. i'm making north of 6 figures but where i live that doesn't make me rich. far from it. though i'm being taxed at a higher rate than what the rockefellers were paying.

as one of the founders said, republics are finished when the government realizes it can bribe the public with its own money.

i don't give a shit whether it is the military industrial complex or the welfare complex looting my cash. i'd like to see them both shut down, but let's face it:

NEITHER PARTY ACTUALLY WANTS TO SHRINK GOVERNMENT, THEY JUST WANT TO REARRANGE IT TO ENABLE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS OF THIEVES TO LOOT IT

Hold on. The tea Party isn't advocating no taxation. If anything a 30% tax bracket is definitely taxation. Everyone quotes "after 1913 this is within one standard deviation of the top tax bracket". But what was it before then? Yea...0%.

Ever occur to you that you are getting ass fucked by the government. What ANT is trying to say is why should anyone have to pay 30% of their money when they only recieve about 7% of their wages in direct services, if you include indirect services such as national defense and security its like 11%. Where does the rest of the money go? The Constution clearly states that the governments sole responsibilities are to provide national infastructure and national defense. No where does it even hint at providing a nice living for poor people, health care for old people, retirement for old people, services for disabled people, ect ect. Im not saying that these are terrible things to provide, I am saying that these are a growth of government. Also the tax rates need to be cut to 0% and then the government needs to go broke so it can be changed. Washington has never had a revenue problem, if washington get $1 they have more then enough. To even suggest that this deficit is a revenue problem is a joke, if they didnt spend more then they took in it wouldnt be a problem now would it?

For the record for those unaware the 50% is levied on those earning £150k or more. Scandalous and certainly has affected the incoming foreign investment within the UK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8604215.stm

For those ignorant (as I'm not aware of the tax situation in the US), is it simply one tax bracket that everyone falls under or is the system similar to the UK, where tax brackets are applied dependant on yearly earnings?

50% is mind boggling. I am all for paying taxes. I like the idea of government and collective money for the greater good. I just think anything more than 1/3 what you earn is horrible. I earned the money. I worked for it. I know how to spend it.

People are all for raising taxes on people under guise that they won't miss the money. That fails my ethical test. It also ignores the charity that most wealthy people partake in. The evil billionaires like Ted Turner, Bill Gates, etc who are giving their money away.

Saying "it's worse" in x country doesn't justify it in another. Hell, Robert Mugabe at one point hyper inflated the currency and became a dictator. That doesn't mean that QE10000 and a military state in America is just.

Ant, how I've missed your rants my friend.