Marines get yelled at and humiliated and become killing machines. If you cannot handle getting your ass handed to you by your boss you should probably look for work elsewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK0-76FChfk

Being a pussy is aninine.

See, I agree with you. That being said you deal with it and move on. Some people break down or go HR on things. Yeah, it is bullshit and people look stupid for losing their cool, but being able to deal with it is a good quality.

Got my ass chewed two times the last week. All my boss\' are on their toes due to cuts and bonus time coming. Which leads to the junior (safer) guys being easy targets for rants, ass chewing and/or scape goats here on the trading floor.

The first time is kind of scary, but unless you\'ve f*cked up bigtime (and know it) you\'re in the clear in 10min. This just happened here an hour ago and people only vaguely remember it. Just brush it off and come back stronger.

I’m sure Eddie and other military-fetishists will come out with shit like “don’t be a pussy you need to learn to take it” but I disagree. I screwed up pretty big time at work once and my boss was letting me have it (even thought I acknowledged my mistake and said sorry) but I straight up told him “Hey, I admit that it was my fault but you aren’t really helping to fix the problem this way. Let’s work on getting this fixed.” I thought that was a good mix of standing up for yourself but not being immature/too reactive.

You must not have five generations of military to tell you what the decision making process is like. Every once in a while, they\'ll talk of cases like this. You have a lot to learn how these systems work:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragging#Notable_incidents

Even David in the Bible sent a woman\'s husband in the front so that he could marry her. People are fucked up. Protect yourself.....and open your eyes.

correction:
you knw officers who have TOLD YOU that they have sent problem soldiers to their deaths

dont be so fucking naive to believe everything ppl tell you

I\'ve never been chewed out, nor have I ever had to chew out a subordinate. Am I the only one?

fixed, sorry about that guys

Of those, let's see: you were alive for two? Maybe three? And you personally knew the parties involved?

Look, I like you and we have no beef. I'm simply saying, in this day and age, U.S. military officers are almost NEVER going to send a subordinate to death. Fuck that noise.

Maybe you're right, who knows. It makes no difference to me. People are going to believe what they want to.

LOL I was merely trying to refute the bogus point that what flies in the military flies in the work force. It's just too extreme a comparison.

i think it got most responses though so thats uber

yeah they have processes for that. seriously. and if there is a serious threat to the chain of command, then you don't need to SEND them to their death. fragging is generally an enlisted man murdering an fucked-up officer, either with friendly fire or directly, and is limited mostly to in non-professional armies.

you know i rule with an iron fist....if you step out of line, i will crush you.

actually blastoise, you were surprisingly pretty responsible. I think I "yelled" at you once because you did something else ridiculous. more like "wtf were you thinking?" over email...

I think the effects on the yellee depend on the relationship between yeller and yellee. If you know someone genuinely cares for your development and well being as a worker and is effectively trying to bring you back in line then I think taking a stern reprimand can be beneficial. The analogy that comes to mind is a football coach that's stuck with you a long time and loses it if he sees you dogging a play because he knows you're capable of better.

However, this is very rarely the case in the finance / corporate world. Usually the chew-out occurs because the person above you is (i) afraid of looking bad and is in self-preservation mode or (ii) does not understand something (you'll find that senior people do not like wading through complex analyses and will become frustrated quickly if you do not distill things down into super basic, easy to understand concepts for them). This kind of chew-out is damaging to you because at its core it is basically someone shitting on your face and trying to throw you under the bus. They are essentially trying to make themselves look better at your expense. It increases your stress and lowers your testosterone. It also engenders resentment towards the person yelling at you - you want to "get even" rather than correct the deficiency. Most people take this, bottle it up, and get back to work. They then take it out on their spouses, kids, and others who don't have power to fight back. The shit, in other words, rolls downhill until everything around you stinks.

I've had a few of those emails...

You need to read dale carnegie's book, How to win friends and influence people. Screaming is useless, bosses need a little more wisdom

war on terror mighr be worse in the next few years

Have been yelled at and chewed out numerous times, can say it's a two edged sword. Some instances where I get yelled for screwing something I shouldn't have or at the very least for something I should've been more aware of, those have facilitated kicking my ass up the learning curve and have been pretty impactful in helping me be better at my job.

Conversely, when the ear rape-ings where for all intents and purposes personal attacks on my raw intelligence, it's degrading to your self worth and do nothing but harbor pent up anger and resentment and really just make me dwell on beating the living fuck out of the person and never push me to do better.

If you need to chew someone out, do it for a meaningful reason. If you feel the need to get snarky and be dick head to prop yourself up, just get the ball rolling on trying to fire the person and get them out of the office if it's that bad. It doesn't do anyone any good to resent a subordinate and hold a grudge. You're still not getting what you want from them and it'll just decrease their standing in the eyes of the group, thus having a worthless body in the pit dragging down the office P&L. If you need to tear someone down, go pick a fight at a bar or something.

I've said it before. Chewing someone out in public is counterproductive if your business relies on teams to be able to work with one another and for employees to give a toss about your firm's success.

If you are going to criticise, do so privately and focus on business objectives that need to be achieved. If the exercise has more to do with your ego than the business, than it will backfire.

got chewed up a couple of time back in banking. i was the only analyst handling the group so any mess-up ultimately falls on my shoulder...this include the VP's or associate's faults . Just grind your teeth and go on, your boss won't fire you unless you did do something stupid and learn from your mistakes.

one time my vp sent the client the outdated memo...and he blamed me for having two documents in one folder while it was clearly labeled with dates such as xxxx 1.5.2010 and xxxx 1.10. 2010........

Most of us are trying to work in finance, not a shitty record label. I'm not really sure how this applies.
I'd much rather be a g-unit, even if it means getting shot.

You see, that shit would not fly in my office.

Let's say hypothetically that I had a higher-up chew me out of for a mistake that was clearly his. In such a situation, I would then chew out the higher up for his stupidity (that's called "managing up"). Would doing so get me in trouble? Fuck no, the entire team would back me up, I have absolute confidence in that. And that particular higher-up would lose office cred, people on my team would be very concerned about behavior like that.

At my firm, if you or someone else makes a mistake, you acknowledge it, fix it, then move on.

You guys must work in some garbage offices to think that "chewing out" subordinates is an acceptable way to manage people.